We are planning our curriculum for our next degree to be offered from 2016 so the thread was useful and mirrored the outcome of one of our meetings this week.

Anne


On 25/03/2015 10:23, "Janet Patterson" <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]> wrote:

HI,
I started this thread so I will finish.  Credit where credit due, we need specialist with mental health background this is a valuable skill set.
J

Regards,
Janet
 
 

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Sarah, I know that in addition to being a SCPHN you are also registered as an Occupational Psychologist with the BPS. I recall you telling me that getting that registration was like joining the “Magic Circle”. You are probably one of the most well qualified mental health specialist practicing within OH nursing.

Best

Anne


On 25/03/2015 09:57, "Sarah Witwicka" <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi, all

I embarrassed, but that's probably just me.  I thought it best to put my hands up here and now rather than (potentially) read several rounds of nods of agreement, and have Janet later find out that I'm a jisc member also. Awkward...?

I didn't expect my reply to into a thread, but thank you everyone, including Janet, for this food for thought.


Best wishes,

Sarah.

Sent from my iPad

On 25 Mar 2015, at 10:43, "Janet Patterson" <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Skills of SCPHN - OH
Thanks for your constructive feedback.
I totally agree when in the field of work the skills will be honed into the area of work.
The context I was speaking of was more for widespread work over a variety of contracts.
Finally it was not intended to single an individual out.
 
Kind Regards,
 
Janet Patterson RGN, RSCPHN- OH, MMEDSci, CMIOSH
Director – OHN Services
Black and Banton
 
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Skills of SCPHN - OH

Hi Janet



I also disagree, if an OHA is working within an industry that has no issues with noise etc, but perhaps has a high level of ‘stress’, sickness absence and foreign travel for example, I would want to see that the OHA has the appropriate skills to undertake the tasks of her role - why would they waste their time and money doing audio and spiro courses that they may never use? Instead they might do a legal update, mental health study day and would certainly need an imms course.



If of course they moved to a different role, they might need to up skill as required.



A Specialist in my opinion is just that - a Specialist in the field that they are working? With the ability to state when something is outside of that remit.



Sarah - absolutely no need to feel ashamed, perhaps its an opportunity for us all to look at the tasks we undertake and ensure we are fully competent?





Kind regards

Wendy

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On 25 Mar 2015, at 08:56, [log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]> wrote:
 

Totally agree. It was very brave of Sarah to do so.
Anne


On 25/03/2015 08:28, "SUE" <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask] <x-msg:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]> > wrote:



While I may agree with Janet in principle its a bit mean to have a rant and for Sarah to feel she has to identify herself and feel embarrassed. We are supposed to support each other, not be a bit worthy and preachy. Just my opinion.


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Errrr... That person is me.  I just feel a tad embarrassed right now.
 

 
Best wishes,
 

 
Sarah Witwicka.

Sent from my iPad
 

On 25 Mar 2015, at 08:57, "Janet Patterson" <[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask] <x-msg:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]> > wrote:

 
 


   
 

I have been seeking an OHA / technician in the London / South area and I have just come across a Reg SCPHN- OH (Reg 2012) who has never had training or done Spirometry or audiometry!!

I am astounded! Surely this is the bread and butter of OH?

I have advised this person as a matter of priority to seek training and experience in this area as even if not hands on they should be able to  understand and supervise the interpretations.

 
Can I ask the jist list your thoughts???

 
Kind Regards,

 
Janet Patterson RGN, RSCPHN- OH, MMEDSci, CMIOSH

Director – OHN Services

Black and Banton

 
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