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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture How nice to get some many contributions! Paul, it had not occurred to me that the mystery object could be shown in a side view. Seeing the vertical as a support rather than a handle really helps me to visualize it as a brazier. John, your comparanda are spot-on. The cock is indeed a fairly standard element, again referencing the denial of Peter. My photos are clearer than the one on the web-- I'll try to get them posted soon-- so I can help with some of the other items. One of the hands on the right is indeed holding something, a brown flexible item. It does not have the bulges that normally characterize a money bag. The figure with the hat is indeed spitting, as Diana suggests. The drops of saliva leaving his mouth and heading toward Christ are again standard among the Instruments of the Passion. The 3 somethings are, as Stephen says, nails. I am not sure about the crossed rods. The reed with sponge is depicted elsewhere in the image, the horizontal blob on a stick just below the spitting figure. I think that the reed scepter is also elsewhere, the bundled rushes immediately to the viewer's right of Christ's garment. My best guess so far is rods used for beating. There are almost always three dice rather than two, reflecting the medieval norm for dice games. In other images, I have noticed that they are often dishonest dice (with the wrong numbers on contiguous faces), but these appear to be legit. Why these specific numbers are shown, I know not. The inscription around the frame talks about the creation and patronage of the panel, not its iconography. Genevra ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion