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Hi all, S. Warren Carey was a fellow of the Australian Academy of Sciences (quick chase on Internet will show you all this), fought bravely in WW2, was the foundation professor of geology at UTas, and convened the first conference on continental drift in 1957. One of his wheels (expanding earth) was very wonky, but he had plenty of other wheels and his chariot was seemingly at the front of the race for a while. 

You could argue that the awarding of Australian Academy of Sciences Fellowships is no better or worse than being awarded a Rhodes Scholarship (this is a lame attempt to bring levity regarding the origins of our Stellenboscher geo-metamorphism member of prominence). At least two Australian prime ministers have been awarded Rhodes Scholarships and at least one of these has spoken a large amount of drivel. Probably several other Academy fellows have too. 

I think this conversation has indeed been enjoyable for reminding us about the scientific process, even if triggered by an acolyte not likely to be awarded an Academy Fellowship or Rhodes Scholarship. Carey was apparently perceived as a true scientific innovator for a while, and there is a generation of former students, now all roughly 65 to 70 years old, who could testify. 

(I can still hear JohnC saying 'but drivel is drivel'. At least it was honest drivel at the time).

Nick Oliver

Adjunct Professor of Economic Geology, James Cook University, and Director, Holcombe Coughlin Oliver
Consultants, Structural and Hydrothermal Geology
www.holcombecoughlinoliver.com
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> On 3 Mar 2015, at 2:34 pm, "Clemens, JD, Prof <[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Warren Carey, not Casey. He was a Tasmanian, I believe.
> – but drivel is still drivel
> 
> Prof. J. D. Clemens 
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> On 3 Mar 2015, at 01:24, Ralf Milke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> And let's not forget, Dan, all we know is that we know nothing. Maybe you
>> are slightly ahead of mine in a very few fields.
>> 
>> Theresa is following a tradition based on the ideas of Samuel Warren
>> Casey. There is a reason that he drifted into oblivion in the geological
>> research community, but the same mental energy that placed him there had
>> before made him one of the prophets and mentors of plate tectonics, when
>> this was woolgathering for most of the established geological community.
>> 
>> I agree with Gawen, this posting was relevant, and if it is only to keep
>> our connections to the roots of our knowlegde and thoughts about rocks,
>> stones, and planets alive.
>> 
>> Cheers, Ralf
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Not letting this happen for a laugh Dan - the list is not moderated,
>>> although further posts from Theresa Jung will be to ensure postings are
>>> relevant.
>>> Regards to all. Gawen (list-owner)
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Metamorphic Studies Group [[log in to unmask]] on
>>> behalf of Dan Harlov [[log in to unmask]]
>>> Sent: 02 March 2015 12:51
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [geo-metamorphism] Plate tectonics
>>> What you are purporting on your website is so much drivel written in
>>> rather bad English.
>>> I don't know who you are or what your deal is - but you should not be
>>> posting on a reputable email thread such as this which is devoted to
>>> discussion of real science as opposed to the pseudo-nonsense on your
>>> website.
>>> I would ask the moderator of the geo-metamorphism email thread (whoever
>>> you are) to please block any more emails from this person from now on
>>> unless of course you are doing this for a laugh.  This is suppose to be a
>>> serious thread geometamorphism not a mockery of one.
>>> Dan
>>>> On Mar 2, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Theresa Jung wrote:
>>> 100 years ago, continental drift was considered as drivel by most
>>> geologists.
>>> At that time Alfred Wegener wasn't taken seriously by most of his
>>> colleagues,
>>> because his discoveries were new to them.
>>> Regards - Theresa
>>> http://innovative-planetary-science.page.tl/Plate-tectonics.htm
>>> Daniel Harlov
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