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A fascinating exchange, as I too wondered from Canada) about that ‘its’.. but since, well, okay… I liked it, short & to the point, although also wondered, a bit, about ‘giving’ rather than, say, ‘making’ or some such verb….Although reconsidering, maybe it is the best word there… Doug On Feb 18, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > aha! > well in my speech community it is acceptable to use the word of a human. > Very common oncebut much less so now I'll grant you. > apart from being an option it's rather useful when one does not know the > gender of a person > > L > > > On 18 February 2015 at 17:09, Max Richards <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> my problem merely? >> >> its: relating to or belonging to a certain thing, animal, etc. : made or >> done by a certain thing, animal, etc. >> >> [merriam webster online] >> >> M >> >> On Feb 18, 2015, at 8:25, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> But that suggests they're of a mind and it is unlikely that they are >>> >>> I can't see the problem with "its" >>> >>> L >>> >>> On 18 February 2015 at 16:07, Max Richards <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >>> >>>> mmm... >>>> or >>>> 'both taking our'? >>>> >>>> M >>>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 7:45, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I wonder why. Seems to me to be the right word there; preferable to >>>> their; >>>>> and there's an irregular repetition of the short i which I find >> pleasing >>>>> >>>>> L >>>>> >>>>> On 18 February 2015 at 15:31, Max Richards <[log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Oh yes, but I'd reconsider the word 'its'/ >>>>>> >>>>>> [definition of reciprocity: >>>>>> >>>>>> you attend my funeral - >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll attend yours.] >>>>>> >>>>>> Max >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 3:19, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Let us, together, do gardening, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> each giving their contribution >>>>>>> >>>>>>> with no stint; each taking its own >>>>>>> >>>>>>> idea of pleasure without pause. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's cooperation, I want, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> with mutuality desired. >>>>>> >>>> >> > Douglas Barbour [log in to unmask] Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuation 2 (UofAPress). Recording Dates (Rubicon Press). that we are only as we find out we are Charles Olson