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it may be there''s a difference in usage or maybe tiime's left me behind i prefer giving L On 18 February 2015 at 17:49, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > A fascinating exchange, as I too wondered from Canada) about that 'its'.. > > but since, well, okay... > > I liked it, short & to the point, although also wondered, a bit, about > 'giving' rather than, say, 'making' or some such verb....Although > reconsidering, maybe it is the best word there... > > Doug > On Feb 18, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > aha! > > well in my speech community it is acceptable to use the word of a human. > > Very common oncebut much less so now I'll grant you. > > apart from being an option it's rather useful when one does not know the > > gender of a person > > > > L > > > > > > On 18 February 2015 at 17:09, Max Richards <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > >> my problem merely? > >> > >> its: relating to or belonging to a certain thing, animal, etc. : made or > >> done by a certain thing, animal, etc. > >> > >> [merriam webster online] > >> > >> M > >> > >> On Feb 18, 2015, at 8:25, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> > >>> But that suggests they're of a mind and it is unlikely that they are > >>> > >>> I can't see the problem with "its" > >>> > >>> L > >>> > >>> On 18 February 2015 at 16:07, Max Richards <[log in to unmask]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> mmm... > >>>> or > >>>> 'both taking our'? > >>>> > >>>> M > >>>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 7:45, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]> > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I wonder why. Seems to me to be the right word there; preferable to > >>>> their; > >>>>> and there's an irregular repetition of the short i which I find > >> pleasing > >>>>> > >>>>> L > >>>>> > >>>>> On 18 February 2015 at 15:31, Max Richards <[log in to unmask]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Oh yes, but I'd reconsider the word 'its'/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [definition of reciprocity: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> you attend my funeral - > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'll attend yours.] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Max > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 3:19, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Let us, together, do gardening, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> each giving their contribution > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> with no stint; each taking its own > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> idea of pleasure without pause. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It's cooperation, I want, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> with mutuality desired. > >>>>>> > >>>> > >> > > > > Douglas Barbour > [log in to unmask] > > Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuation 2 > (UofAPress). > Recording Dates (Rubicon Press). > > that we are only > as we find out we are > > Charles Olson >