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Hear Hear :o) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear,_hear <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear,_hear> David ......................................................................... David Durling FDRS PhD http://durling.tel ......................................................................... > On 8 Feb 2015, at 12:03 pm, Keith Russell <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Sorry, > "Here here" is a shout of support and acclaim. So it means here "yes, yes I agree completely. > Keith > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Does "here here!" mean "just a minute, there", or "'allo, 'allo, what's > this 'ere then?" > Or, does it mean ... that you "hear" something in my response that agrees > with your comment "we are trapped in the land of poets and poets are best > > Sent from Outlook<http://taps.io/outlookmobile> > > > > > On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 3:58 AM -0800, "Johann van der Merwe" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > Keith > Does "here here!" mean "just a minute, there", or "'allo, 'allo, what's > this 'ere then?" > Or, does it mean ... that you "hear" something in my response that agrees > with your comment "we are trapped in the land of poets and poets are best > at revealing what otherwise can not be seen." > > I would agree that "it" ... "is a way of being that few can sustain" ... > with "it" meaning the way any person is willing or unwilling to adapt to > what is being received (fed back) from the environment within which that > person has to operate .. aka known as "living". > > Metaphors and "big pictures" are all part of the same thing ... all > reverberate back from the "future" towards which it was projected (synonym > for "design" ... or, like the sonar in a submarine, collectively create a > proto-picture of what could be possible), and then what? As David said, > this is still not reality, but then neither is much of what we have to live > through ... > > ... it could be that as designers we can, much like poets were expected to > be able to do in the past, provide at least some direction for peoples' > lives to evolve towards ... mind tools for a better future. NOT more things > to buy. > > Johann > > On 7 February 2015 at 09:38, Keith Russell <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> Here here! >> >> On 7/02/2015 3:46 pm, "Johann van der Merwe" <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >>> Keith >>> As "a way of being" there is nothing to touch being a sensitive >>> cybernetician ... second order variety ... >>> Those who (like the believer in soft systems) can get to the point of >>> letting go all control (over others, over things and over self) can turn >>> into a "poet" of sorts, a daydreamer with eyes wide open, and with ears >>> that can truly hear every voice, and then, like a designer with that >>> peculiar mindset that structures inputs, make some sense of it all. >>> Johann >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> >> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design >> Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > > -- > Dr. Johann van der Merwe > Independent Design Researcher > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> > Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design > Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> > Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design > Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design -----------------------------------------------------------------