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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Google image search might also be useful for finding a similar online illustration: https://images.google.com/ On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Cormack, Margaret Jean <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > John's identifications, not surprisingly, are spot on. I never heard of > St. Acacius, but if we are dealing with large groups of saints, what is the > iconography of the Theban Legion? They are sometimes found alongside the > 11,000 virgins. Could any of the other illustrations depict them? Also, > Anders, even if you can't show the actual pictures, can you find similar > ones on line? As I'm sure you know Danish and Swedish altarpieces and > murals can be searched at > > www.altertavler.dk www.kalkmalerier.dk; > > www.medeltidbild.historiska.se/medeltidbild/default.asp > > Meg > > No. 2 would seem to be Ursula and her companions being received by the > Huns at Köln. See (e.g.): > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_File-3AStaUrsulaCepleanu.jpg&d=AwIFaQ&c=7MSSWy9Bs2yocjNQzurxOQ&r=ck9DGMUVufrSrS57t_UT9k6In-tVqXkuW6oaFL10XQY&m=dvJpm7dB2miAE9fjAmrr46oi092VttiW_txt3BOWkJI&s=Bg3d-RpOSdfYCS5Re0XLH3_mx8RckLWFmFpzqUScl-0&e= > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ursulinesmsj.org_-5Fuploads_Die-2DAnkunft-2Dder-2Dhl.-2DUrsula-2Din-2DKoln-2Dund-2Ddas-2DMartyrium-2Dihrer-2DGefa1-2D1024x728.jpg&d=AwIFaQ&c=7MSSWy9Bs2yocjNQzurxOQ&r=ck9DGMUVufrSrS57t_UT9k6In-tVqXkuW6oaFL10XQY&m=dvJpm7dB2miAE9fjAmrr46oi092VttiW_txt3BOWkJI&s=JQKvcJTDkIuZc6Ng9OZaRqnS_OfbRPXSkhhN-G4T3hY&e= > > No. 3 probably depicts Acacius / Achatius and the Martyrs of Ararat. See > (e.g.): > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sognekirke.dk_helgen_images_achatius.jpg&d=AwIFaQ&c=7MSSWy9Bs2yocjNQzurxOQ&r=ck9DGMUVufrSrS57t_UT9k6In-tVqXkuW6oaFL10XQY&m=dvJpm7dB2miAE9fjAmrr46oi092VttiW_txt3BOWkJI&s=PKdS9D9ORMknnMvN5zW13SHZbXm95XBL68ls2Mn_7LQ&e= > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.christies.com_lotfinder_LotDetailsPrintable.aspx-3FintObjectID-3D4155755&d=AwIFaQ&c=7MSSWy9Bs2yocjNQzurxOQ&r=ck9DGMUVufrSrS57t_UT9k6In-tVqXkuW6oaFL10XQY&m=dvJpm7dB2miAE9fjAmrr46oi092VttiW_txt3BOWkJI&s=F0XpASLVjzWlNJR6gWzhdBEGHl7etzmElC-5guhBkkY&e= > > In the late Middle Ages both of those martyrdoms were thought of as having > involved some 10,000 martyrs (or more). Here, as in some of the images > linked to above, only a representative handful is shown. > > Best, > John Dillon > > > On 02/27/15, Anders Fröjmark wrote: > > > > Dear colleagues, > > > > > > > > From a Norwegian colleague, I received an image of, I presume, a painted > door of a retable from the late 15th C. or c. 1500. The image is presumably > a late 18th or 19th century black and white print, signed “V. Raineri f.”. > The source of the print is the Ambrosian Library in Milan. > > > > > > > > The door on the print is divided in four squares, each of which contain > a painting. Neither my colleague, nor me, nor anyone I have asked, know > which saints and/or martyrs are depicted. I figured the best way to solve > the riddle would be to go to the MR Sendlist, for help, which is what I > hereby do. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, the Sendlist rules do not allow me to attach the image > itself, but perhaps the following description might be helpful: > > > > > > > > 1) The upper left square shows two captured men, bareheaded, beardless, > one with a short tunic, one with armor and a cape, who are brought before a > sitting person (a prince or an official with beard, cape, and a funny hat). > There is a rock in the foreground. > > > > 2) The upper right square shows a ship with a bishop, a king and a pope, > and three more men, all beardless. The ship is nearing land, but being shot > at from land by a man with a bow (no arrow is visible). At the other end, > another man holds a rope and is probably towing the ship to land. > > > > 3) The lower left square shows a bishop (on top) and six other men > pierced on bushes with huge thorns. All are beardless. Two men are next to > naked. The others have ordinary (not clerical) clothes. Another man is in > the background, holding a spear (?). > > > > 4) The lower right square shows one person, beardless, with a cape, who > is to be decapitated, another, tonsured (a deacon?), already decapitated on > the ground, some men looking on, one of which is an official with beard, > hat, and cape. Uniquely for this image, there are two or three women > (virgins) depicted. They are prisoners. > > > > All images have the same sky, spotted with stars. > > > > > > > > The original file was marked: Жития просветителей мучеников > > > > > > > > Well, what say you? > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Anders Fröjmark > > > > Linnaeus University, Kalmar, Sweden > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jiscmail.ac.uk_medieval-2Dreligion&d=AwIFaQ&c=7MSSWy9Bs2yocjNQzurxOQ&r=ck9DGMUVufrSrS57t_UT9k6In-tVqXkuW6oaFL10XQY&m=dvJpm7dB2miAE9fjAmrr46oi092VttiW_txt3BOWkJI&s=QY_PIm-F1IzY9TFinQXLmM2_i2O0JMbR45j0ttSc2KU&e= > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion > ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion