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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Dear Rosemary, Thanks for your comments. If you look at the catalogue entries for the V & A Alabasters in "English Medieval Alabasters" by Francis Cheetham you will find time and again no provenance beyond where they were purchased. The find of these panels at Flawford is in a sense quite atypical. Like you, I find this very frustrating! Best wishes Gordon PS I am looking forward to seeing the new edition of Grossteste by Pamela Hoskin when it appears in May- the first volume in the new Lincs RS Ksthleen major series. -----Original Message----- From: Rosemary Hayes-Milligan and Andrew Milligan <[log in to unmask]> To: MEDIEVAL-RELIGION <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 12:02 Subject: Re: [M-R] FEAST - A Celebration for the Day (February 24): the First and Second Finding(s) of the Head of St. John the Forerunner medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Superb image and background description Gordon. The first time I saw Nottingham alabasters in any number was on my first visit to the Burrell collection in Glasgow - hugely frustrating because there is no provenance with any of the pieces. Is that typical? Do we just have the panels with no indication of where and by whom they were originally used? Rosemary Hayes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Plumb" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [M-R] FEAST - A Celebration for the Day (February 24): the First and Second Finding(s) of the Head of St. John the Forerunner medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Only marginally relevant to this is the fact that the head of John the Baptist was a major subject of Nottingham alabasters: Here is an example in the Castle Museum in Nottingham.: https://www.flickr.com/photos/22274117@N08/16244647939 Gordon Plumb -----Original Message----- From: John Dillon <[log in to unmask]> To: MEDIEVAL-RELIGION <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 8:27 Subject: [M-R] FEAST - A Celebration for the Day (February 24): the First and Second Finding(s) of the Head of St. John the Forerunner medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture In Orthodox and some other Eastern-rite churches of the Chalcedonian persuasion 24. February is the feast of the First and Second Finding(s) of the Head of St. John the Forerunner. Roman-rite martyrologies from at least the ninth century through to the modern Roman Martyrology prior to its revision of 2001 entered under that day a commemoration of the Finding (later, the First Finding) of the Head of St. John the Baptist. The Coptic Orthodox Church celebrates these Findings in a feast of the Appearance of the Head of St. John the Baptist on 30. Amshir (9. March; 24. February, old style). In Greek tradition the First Finding took place in the time of Constantine the Great (306-337) and was effected by two monks informed by John in a dream. The recovered head was brought in secret to another place where in time it came into the possession of an Arian who used its miracle-working presence to bring about cures for which he took the credit and who, having been exiled, buried the head against an intended return that never happened. Later, after a monastery had been built over the place where the head was hidden, John appeared to the monastery's hegumen Marcellus, apprised him of what lay beneath, and so put in motion the Second Finding. Coptic Orthodox tradition is very similar but identifies the churchman who effects the Second Finding as Martianus, bishop of Emesa. In the Latin tradition represented by the later ninth-century martyrology of Usuard of Saint-Germain the Finding took place in the time of the emperor Marcian (450-457); this accords with the customary dates for the Second Finding (either 452 or 453). According to its originally eleventh-century _Hypotyposis_ (handbook of arrangements), at the Theotokos Evergetis monastery in Constantinople on only this feast and that of the Forty Martyrs of Sebaste would the monks break their fast during Great Lent. Some medieval images of the First and Second Findings of the Head of St. John the Forerunner: a) The First Finding as depicted (with Constantine and others present) in the later tenth- or very early eleventh-century so-called Menologion of Basil II (Città del Vaticano, BAV, cod. Vat. gr. 1613, p. 420; reduced grayscale view): http://tinyurl.com/mzm2tyo b) The First Finding (at bottom left) as depicted in an eleventh- or twelfth-century menologion of undetermined origin (Paris, BnF, ms. Grec 1528, fol. 216r): http://tinyurl.com/ojwvlvo c) The First Finding as depicted (panel at lower right) in an earlier fourteenth-century set of miniatures from Thessaloniki (betw. 1322 and 1340) for the Great Feasts (Oxford, Bodleian Library, MS Gr. th. f. 1, fol. 28r): http://image.ox.ac.uk/images/bodleian/msgrthf1/28r.jpg d) The Second Finding (note the presence of the monastery church) as depicted in the St. John the Forerunner cycle in the earlier fourteenth-century frescoes (1330s) in the diakonikon of the church of the Hodegetria in the Patriarchate of Peć at Peć in, depending upon one's view of the matter, either Serbia's province of Kosovo and Metohija or the Republic of Kosovo: http://tinyurl.com/83eevtp e) The First Finding (upper register; lower register: the Entombment of St. John the Forerunner) as depicted in the earlier sixteenth-century frescoes (1545 and 1546) by Theofanis Strelitzas-Bathas (a.k.a. Theophanes the Cretan) in the chapel of St. Nicholas in the katholikon of the Stavronikita monastery on Mt. Athos: http://tinyurl.com/6lgc36s f) The First and Second Findings (bottom register, last two panels at right) as depicted in an earlier sixteenth-century icon, from Nyonoks in the Arkhangelskaya region, of St. John the Forerunner with scenes from his life, now in the Arkhangelsk Fine Arts Museum: http://www.iconrussia.ru/eng/icon/detail.php?ID=5837 The Second Finding is represented by John's appearance to the hegumen Marcellus. g) The First and Second Findings (bottom register, last two panels at right) as depicted in an earlier or mid-sixteenth-century Yaroslavl School icon of St. John the Forerunner with scenes from his life, now in the Art Museum in Yaroslavl: http://www.icon-art.info/hires.php?lng=en&type=1&id=1128 h) The First and Second Findings (bottom register, last four panels at right) as depicted in two pairs of scenes (John's appearances; actual findings) in a mid-sixteenth-century Yaroslavl School icon of St. John the Forerunner with scenes from his life, now in the Museum of History and Architecture, Yaroslavl: http://www.icon-art.info/hires.php?lng=en&type=1&id=1129 Best, John Dillon (matter from an older post now revised) ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion