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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Meg, is there a similar site for Norway? Genevra On 2/27/2015 2:30 PM, Cormack, Margaret Jean wrote: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > John's identifications, not surprisingly, are spot on. I never heard of St. Acacius, but if we are dealing with large groups of saints, what is the iconography of the Theban Legion? They are sometimes found alongside the 11,000 virgins. Could any of the other illustrations depict them? Also, Anders, even if you can't show the actual pictures, can you find similar ones on line? As I'm sure you know Danish and Swedish altarpieces and murals can be searched at > > www.altertavler.dk www.kalkmalerier.dk; > > www.medeltidbild.historiska.se/medeltidbild/default.asp > > Meg > > No. 2 would seem to be Ursula and her companions being received by the Huns at Köln. See (e.g.): > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_File-3AStaUrsulaCepleanu.jpg&d=AwIFaQ&c=7MSSWy9Bs2yocjNQzurxOQ&r=ck9DGMUVufrSrS57t_UT9k6In-tVqXkuW6oaFL10XQY&m=dvJpm7dB2miAE9fjAmrr46oi092VttiW_txt3BOWkJI&s=Bg3d-RpOSdfYCS5Re0XLH3_mx8RckLWFmFpzqUScl-0&e= > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ursulinesmsj.org_-5Fuploads_Die-2DAnkunft-2Dder-2Dhl.-2DUrsula-2Din-2DKoln-2Dund-2Ddas-2DMartyrium-2Dihrer-2DGefa1-2D1024x728.jpg&d=AwIFaQ&c=7MSSWy9Bs2yocjNQzurxOQ&r=ck9DGMUVufrSrS57t_UT9k6In-tVqXkuW6oaFL10XQY&m=dvJpm7dB2miAE9fjAmrr46oi092VttiW_txt3BOWkJI&s=JQKvcJTDkIuZc6Ng9OZaRqnS_OfbRPXSkhhN-G4T3hY&e= > > No. 3 probably depicts Acacius / Achatius and the Martyrs of Ararat. See (e.g.): > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sognekirke.dk_helgen_images_achatius.jpg&d=AwIFaQ&c=7MSSWy9Bs2yocjNQzurxOQ&r=ck9DGMUVufrSrS57t_UT9k6In-tVqXkuW6oaFL10XQY&m=dvJpm7dB2miAE9fjAmrr46oi092VttiW_txt3BOWkJI&s=PKdS9D9ORMknnMvN5zW13SHZbXm95XBL68ls2Mn_7LQ&e= > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.christies.com_lotfinder_LotDetailsPrintable.aspx-3FintObjectID-3D4155755&d=AwIFaQ&c=7MSSWy9Bs2yocjNQzurxOQ&r=ck9DGMUVufrSrS57t_UT9k6In-tVqXkuW6oaFL10XQY&m=dvJpm7dB2miAE9fjAmrr46oi092VttiW_txt3BOWkJI&s=F0XpASLVjzWlNJR6gWzhdBEGHl7etzmElC-5guhBkkY&e= > > In the late Middle Ages both of those martyrdoms were thought of as having involved some 10,000 martyrs (or more). Here, as in some of the images linked to above, only a representative handful is shown. > > Best, > John Dillon > > > On 02/27/15, Anders Fröjmark wrote: >> Dear colleagues, >> >> >> >> From a Norwegian colleague, I received an image of, I presume, a painted door of a retable from the late 15th C. or c. 1500. The image is presumably a late 18th or 19th century black and white print, signed “V. Raineri f.”. The source of the print is the Ambrosian Library in Milan. >> >> >> >> The door on the print is divided in four squares, each of which contain a painting. Neither my colleague, nor me, nor anyone I have asked, know which saints and/or martyrs are depicted. I figured the best way to solve the riddle would be to go to the MR Sendlist, for help, which is what I hereby do. >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, the Sendlist rules do not allow me to attach the image itself, but perhaps the following description might be helpful: >> >> >> >> 1) The upper left square shows two captured men, bareheaded, beardless, one with a short tunic, one with armor and a cape, who are brought before a sitting person (a prince or an official with beard, cape, and a funny hat). There is a rock in the foreground. >> >> 2) The upper right square shows a ship with a bishop, a king and a pope, and three more men, all beardless. The ship is nearing land, but being shot at from land by a man with a bow (no arrow is visible). At the other end, another man holds a rope and is probably towing the ship to land. >> >> 3) The lower left square shows a bishop (on top) and six other men pierced on bushes with huge thorns. All are beardless. Two men are next to naked. The others have ordinary (not clerical) clothes. Another man is in the background, holding a spear (?). >> >> 4) The lower right square shows one person, beardless, with a cape, who is to be decapitated, another, tonsured (a deacon?), already decapitated on the ground, some men looking on, one of which is an official with beard, hat, and cape. Uniquely for this image, there are two or three women (virgins) depicted. They are prisoners. >> >> All images have the same sky, spotted with stars. >> >> >> >> The original file was marked: Жития просветителей мучеников >> >> >> >> Well, what say you? >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> >> Anders Fröjmark >> >> Linnaeus University, Kalmar, Sweden > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jiscmail.ac.uk_medieval-2Dreligion&d=AwIFaQ&c=7MSSWy9Bs2yocjNQzurxOQ&r=ck9DGMUVufrSrS57t_UT9k6In-tVqXkuW6oaFL10XQY&m=dvJpm7dB2miAE9fjAmrr46oi092VttiW_txt3BOWkJI&s=QY_PIm-F1IzY9TFinQXLmM2_i2O0JMbR45j0ttSc2KU&e= > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 426/3313 - Release Date: 12/13/10 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion