Hi Debbie, Thanks see you Friday. Best wishes Mel -----Original Message----- From: List for discussion of issues in museum education in the UK. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of GEM automatic digest system Sent: 05 February 2015 00:03 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: GEM Digest - 4 Feb 2015 (#2015-39) There are 10 messages totaling 3535 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Professional social media (2) 2. GEM job ad: Head of Education - Bletchley Park 3. FW: Museums, ITT & school CPD 4. Freelance project officer 5. Review of Kirklees Museums & Galleries Programme of Events 6. sleepovers... 7. Looking for some advice (2) 8. 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Having recently innocently downloaded malware into my precious laptop (and had to pay a man-who-can to sort it) I'm anxious to only sign up to things that are a. good and b. don't turn my laptop into a gibbering wreck. Thoughts? E Essex Havard ALACS (Adult Learning and the Culture Sector) 07976 125880 Twitter: @_alacs Blog: www.alacsblog.wordpress.com + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + GEM list: Contact the list owner for assistance at [log in to unmask] For information about joining, leaving and suspending mail (eg during a holiday) see the list website at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=GEM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 12:57:05 +0000 From: GEM Office <[log in to unmask]> Subject: GEM job ad: Head of Education - Bletchley Park From GEM Office An advert for the following position has just been placed on the GEM website: Job Title Head of Education Organisation Bletchley Park Location Milton Keynes Salary/Fee £32,000 - £35,000 per annum Type Full-time Closing date Monday 23 February 2015 Please visit http://www.gem.org.uk/jobads/jobads_menu.php for more details of this and other job ads. ________________________________ GEM, 54 Balmoral Road, Gillingham, Kent, ME7 4PG, UK Tel/Fax: +44 (0) 1634 853424 Email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> www.gem.org.uk<http://www.gem.org.uk/> GEM is a registered charity number 1090995 and a company limited by guarantee registered in England number 149246 ________________________________ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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I think if you're in a Sales role then maybe it'd be worth investing in, but even then monthly fee could probably be better spent on something else - Facebook ads, saving up to go to a conference, AdWords, etc. Although I use LinkedIn, and have in the past found it invaluable in making contact with specific people via the "you know X who knows Y who can intro you to Z" functionality, this was for a specific purpose - namely finding people to talk at conference and events we've run. And all that was using the free version. I cringe lots - and I think most people do too - when those salesy emails come from LinkedIn. In fact I think I've filtered them I hate them so much :-) Personally I find Twitter absolutely invaluable for stuff that could loosely be described as "networking" - certainly if I want to ask a specific question or am looking for help / make a contact then it's generally the most vibrant of the social networks for me. It has also on many an occasion seen me finding someone via their profile, making contact and eventually doing some work with them - which I guess is the eventual aim of any of this activity. re. malware - AFAIK apart from the mobile apps, LinkedIn doesn't offer any downloads so don't think there's a connection...? cheers.. Mike _____________________________ *Mike Ellis * Thirty8 Digital: a small but perfectly formed digital agency:http://thirty8.co.uk <http://thirty8.co.uk/> * My book: http://heritageweb.co.uk <http://heritageweb.co.uk/> * [log in to unmask] wrote: > As a freelancer I am keen to take advantage of any/all opportunities > for networking/marketing. I am on LinkedIn (and Twitter and > Wordpress...) and keep getting these "Try LinkedIn Gold, free, for 30 > days" kind of emails. > Have any other freelancers taken advantage of this? > Having recently innocently downloaded malware into my precious laptop > (and had to pay a man-who-can to sort it) I'm anxious to only sign up > to things that are a. good and b. don't turn my laptop into a > gibbering wreck. > Thoughts? > E > Essex Havard > ALACS (Adult Learning and the Culture Sector) > > 07976 125880 > > Twitter: @_alacs > Blog: www.alacsblog.wordpress.com > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + GEM list: Contact the list > owner for assistance at [log in to unmask] For information > about joining, leaving and suspending mail (eg during a holiday) see > the list website at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=GEM > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + GEM list: Contact the list owner for assistance at [log in to unmask] For information about joining, leaving and suspending mail (eg during a holiday) see the list website at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=GEM + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 14:44:47 +0000 From: Anra Kennedy <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FW: Museums, ITT & school CPD Hi everyone Thank you SO much everyone who responded to my question below, I had an amazing response! I've had lots of wonderful schemes and partnerships flagged to me, I'll collate the responses and also get back to the individuals over the next couple of days. Thanks again, Anra From: List for discussion of issues in museum education in the UK. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anra Kennedy Sent: 30 January 2015 13:05 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Museums, ITT & school CPD Hi GEM-land I'm pulling together speakers for some seminars on learning at the Museums and Heritage Show later this year. One of our topics will be (after requests for advice and info on this last year) museums and galleries linking into initial teacher training and ongoing teacher CPD. Are any of you involved in doing this or do you know of schemes/partnerships where this is working well and is showing a real impact upon the uptake of museum provision and the quality of the experiences for teachers and learners? Any thoughts or contacts welcome... 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There is some really good clarity around the employment / tax implications of this in a recent email I received from Hiscox (I have insurance with them and they send very useful e-bulletins occasionally, targeted at freelancers - I really recommend it / them) Anyway... See the 'Employee Status' section of this post for more details, and do pass along to relevant departments of your organisation for ref Common tax return errors made by small businesses | | | | | | | | | | | Common tax return errors made by small businessesIgnorance is no defence for tax return errors, says Karen Eckstein, a Partner at Simpson & Marwick Solicitors LLP. | | | | View on www.hiscox.co.uk | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | Also I was very interested to hear that these things are fed back to HLF to inform future things, that's very good news. Best wishes as alwaysSally Sally Fort Consultant: cultural projects www.sallyfort.com From: Stephen Allen <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2015, 17:25 Subject: Re: Freelance project officer #yiv7950800796 #yiv7950800796 -- _filtered #yiv7950800796 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv7950800796 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} _filtered #yiv7950800796 {font-family:TrebuchetMS;panose-1:0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}#yiv7950800796 #yiv7950800796 p.yiv7950800796MsoNormal, #yiv7950800796 li.yiv7950800796MsoNormal, #yiv7950800796 div.yiv7950800796MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv7950800796 a:link, #yiv7950800796 span.yiv7950800796MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7950800796 a:visited, #yiv7950800796 span.yiv7950800796MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7950800796 p.yiv7950800796MsoAcetate, #yiv7950800796 li.yiv7950800796MsoAcetate, #yiv7950800796 div.yiv7950800796MsoAcetate {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:8.0pt;}#yiv7950800796 span.yiv7950800796apple-converted-space {}#yiv7950800796 span.yiv7950800796BalloonTextChar {}#yiv7950800796 span.yiv7950800796EmailStyle20 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv7950800796 .yiv7950800796MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv7950800796 {margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}#yiv7950800796 div.yiv7950800796WordSection1 {}#yiv7950800796 From my fairly lengthy experience in dealing with freelance, casual and temporary this would not pass muster with HMRC and would be treated as paid employment. I haven’t done the maths, but after tax, NI and deductions it seems to me to be running close to the living if not minimum wage. £110 doesn’t really sound attractive at all to someone looking for work in this sector, esp in That London. At best this ‘post’ seems naïve – at worst (IMHO) exploitative. Stephen Allen From: List for discussion of issues in museum education in the UK. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Richard Ellam Sent: 03 February 2015 17:05 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Freelance project officer HI All Val is absolutely right about this. This post is NOT a freelance engagement; it is a short term contract of employment and would be regarded as being such by the Inland Revenue, who would rightly demand that the employee, NOT Contractor, was on PAYE tax, and the the employer pay employers NI contributions on the salary paid. As an employee the post-holder will also be entitled to sickness and holiday pay, and there are significant penalties payable by employers who try to scam their staff out of their entitlements to these things by setting up false ‘self employment’ contracts such as this. YOU CANNOT avoid your obligations as an employer by simply coercing someone into saying that they are self-employed: there are well established criteria by which the relevant authorities judge if a worker is properly an employee or not. This job is undoubtedly a contract of employment, not a contract for services, so the poor sod who get the the job will legally be an employee, not a contractor, whatever you might think to the contrary. I wonder if anyone has told the Unison branch at Braking and Dagenham Council about this attempted scam, and what they think of it. Come to think about it why have the HR people at Dagenham council not stopped this. Did anyone think to run it past a properly qualified HR person before they ran the advert? And yes the fee offered for the work required and experience sought is, in London, a joke. Try doubling the day rate… Don’t touch this with a bargepole Cheers Richard Ellam L M Interactive Science Shows and Hands-On Stuff [log in to unmask] www.lminteractive.co.uk On 3 Feb 2015, at 16:08, Val Bott <[log in to unmask]> wrote: The specification contains a big contradiction - it says it is freelance (and gives a poor daily rate) but it also says it is full time for a year. The tax people won't wear that, so Leanne, you need to revisit this one and readvertise. Val Val Bott MBE MA FMA 25 Hartington Road, London W4 3TL 020 8995 7413 valbott.co.uk nurserygardeners.co.uk williamhogarthtrust.org.uk On 03/02/2015 15:44, Rebecca Swan wrote: Martin, £28k would be correct if the freelancer worked every working day of the year with no holiday or sick pay. In addition being a freelancer you need to run your own office with the associated overheads, pay your own tax, national insurance, public liability and save for a pension. I take onboard that this is for a full time position but then it should be advertised as such with a short-term contract to give the employee the associated rights to sick pay, holiday pay and security of employment. Hope the biscuit was nourishing! Rebecca From: Martin Bazley <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2015, 15:28 Subject: Re: Freelance project officer If it's full time for a year, then [calculator… £110 (per day) x 5 (per week) x 52 (per year)] doesn’t that equate to an annual 'salary' of £28600? It would be different if that rate was for a couple of days' work. I think the key point (Liz just said it too) that it looks more like a post than a freelance contract. But I think it may be allowable up to a year isn't it, provided you haven’t just been fully employed there? I haven't had my afternoon coffee break yet, so am probably at least one biscuit short of a full set of brain cells - kettle going on now… From: List for discussion of issues in museum education in the UK. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rebecca Swan Sent: 03 February 2015 14:58 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Freelance project officer What a joke of a payment for the experience required. £110 a day including paying your own tax. I'd be amazed if any self-respecting freelancer would even be able to afford to think about applying. Rebecca Swan From: Westwood Leeanne <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2015, 14:29 Subject: Freelance project officer Apologies for cross posting Valence House is looking for a freelance project officer for its Fifty years a borough project. Please see the Job description attached. 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I would be grateful if you could answer the following questions. (Please reply off-list and I will share collated responses to those interested in receiving them) 1] Do you have a dedicated events team/member of staff - or do various staff members organise events & activities as just one part of their job description? (What % of their time is taken with running events?) 2] Do you ever commission external organisations or freelancers to organise your events? If YES, is this a regular commission/occurrence or just a one-off for specific or large-scale events etc? 3] How are most of your events & activities financed? - Events budget (fully or partially?) - Sponsorship/partnership funding - Full costs recovered by ticket sales/charges 4] Do you allow other groups to host events at your site(s)? If so, what types of events are these and do you charge a 'rental' fee? 5] Do you always run certain annual events? (ie. Valentine's Day; Mother's Day; Religious or Cultural Festivals etc.) Why? 6] Why/When do you regularly run other events? - During school holidays - Linked to exhibitions/collections - Linked to national initiatives (ie. 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This would be great if it was a parent and toddler meet up and have a cup of coffee and a chat group but we do yoga, a story time and crafts session and a sing-a-long and music session where parents and children interact together. She is really disrupting our sessions but we are unsure how to approach her - even our freelancers who run some of the sessions and deal with under fives day in day out haven't come across this (to this extent) in any of their sessions. We have all tried the stopping what you are saying and waiting for her to stop talking method which doesn't work and carrying on with the session leaving her and the other parent she was talking to without a clue to what we are doing which also didn't work. We have noticed other parents getting annoyed with her and I don't want them to stop attending. We have spoken about talking to her but are struggling to come up with a way of doing so that is appropriate, won't offend her or cause the word of mouth advertising that has made the sessions so popular backfire on us! Any advice would be very, very welcome. 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For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + GEM list: Contact the list owner for assistance at [log in to unmask] For information about joining, leaving and suspending mail (eg during a holiday) see the list website at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=GEM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 17:12:57 +0000 From: Katie Ann Smith <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Examples of public engagement done well! Hi Gemmers, I've just started working at the RNLI as their Heritage Engagement Manager and doing a presentation to lots of non-museumy folk next week about heritage and it's importance so I thought it would be a good idea to give some examples! I was wondering if anyone has any examples of when heritage has been integrated particularly well into a non-heritage environment, or just more generally when it's been used to engage new or existing audiences with particular effect? I'm quite keen on looking into really simple but very effective ideas so any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. 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Another is to get the group together and agree to set some ground rules. Again, explain that part of it is about ensuring that the time is used to best effect, and get everyone to agree some basics. One of these will definitely be about making sure everyone contributes equally, and no-one over-contributes - particularly if this is going to skew the timings. Make sure that the group acknowledges you as 'rule guardian', so you have permission to say to her: "Thanks, X, but as you'll remember, we agreed that we'd keep to time/not over-contribute, and we need to do . now (or hear from Y)'. That way, you're invoking her own agreement that you're in charge of timing. If you want to amplify this, you could even give yourself a bell or a rattle, or whatever, which means 'time out' - or use one of the classic primary-school teaching techniques for noisy classrooms (so everyone has to count to ten, and by 'ten', everyone must be joining in the count). Barry _____ From: List for discussion of issues in museum education in the UK. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jo Rooks Sent: 04 February 2015 17:11 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Looking for some advice Hello All, We have an under fives group that meets once a week and is quite popular but we have one parent who has started to regularly attend who has a tendency to talk all the time. This would be great if it was a parent and toddler meet up and have a cup of coffee and a chat group but we do yoga, a story time and crafts session and a sing-a-long and music session where parents and children interact together. She is really disrupting our sessions but we are unsure how to approach her - even our freelancers who run some of the sessions and deal with under fives day in day out haven't come across this (to this extent) in any of their sessions. We have all tried the stopping what you are saying and waiting for her to stop talking method which doesn't work and carrying on with the session leaving her and the other parent she was talking to without a clue to what we are doing which also didn't work. We have noticed other parents getting annoyed with her and I don't want them to stop attending. We have spoken about talking to her but are struggling to come up with a way of doing so that is appropriate, won't offend her or cause the word of mouth advertising that has made the sessions so popular backfire on us! Any advice would be very, very welcome. 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