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I strongly support Kathleen`s comments. As far as Economics is concerned
its social dimension is today a pending issue that goes far beyond
numerical and computational properties of standing models. We need more
Political Economy (long run and institutional issues) than short run
Economic Policies flooded with elegant maths but useless to accommodate
 social and technological evolution and instability.

Of course, thanks for all the comments, since they reflect the wide variety
of focuses on ABM modelling.


Cesareo Hernandez

2014-12-03 10:49 GMT+01:00 Cesareo Hernandez <[log in to unmask]>:

> I strongly support Kathleen`s comments. As far as Economics is concerned
> its social dimension is today a pending issue that goes far beyond
> numerical and computational properties of standing models. We need more
> Political Economy (long run and institutional issues) than short run
> Economic Policies flooded with elegant maths but useless to accommodate
>  social and technological evolution and instability.
>
> Of course, thanks for all the comments, since they reflect the wide
> variety of focuses on ABM modelling.
>
>
> Cesareo Hernandez
>
> 2014-12-02 22:56 GMT+01:00 Kathleen Carley <[log in to unmask]>:
>
>> I think that some of that would be fine - but one thing that has kept
>> JASSS special vis the other simulation journals has been the
>> social/theory side of things and the philosophy of simulation. I think
>> we would want to keep that and not just focus on techniques and math.
>>
>>
>> On 12/2/2014 1:29 PM, Sallach, David L. wrote:
>> > I agree that JASSS has been open to all the social sciences, plus other
>> > research domains in which research strategies are methodologically
>> > relevant.  If we wish to emphasize interdisciplinarity in the journal,
>> > we may want to especially encourage research that explores cross-domain
>> > interaction.
>> >
>> > As long as we are having this type of discussion, there is another
>> > question that pertains to JASSS focus.  If the progression of other
>> > disciplines is any indication, we can expect the role of simulation in
>> > the research process to shift.  More innovations will be in domain
>> > mathematics and/or its validation, with simulation models exploring the
>> > resulting spaces and shapes, including how the modeled processes scale
>> > up.  Should we expect JASSS to publish mathematical innovations and
>> > their associated validation techniques, as well as the simulation
>> itself?
>> >
>> > David L. Sallach, Social Scientist
>> > Social and Behavioral Systems
>> > Systems Science Center
>> > Global Security Sciences Division
>> > Argonne National Laboratory
>> > 9700 South Cass Avenue
>> > Argonne, IL 60439
>> > (630) 252-5760
>> >
>> > From: Claudio Cioffi-Revilla <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> > Reply-To: Claudio Cioffi-Revilla <[log in to unmask] <mailto:
>> [log in to unmask]>>
>> > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 at 8:51 AM
>> > To: "[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>"
>> > <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> > Subject: Re: [SIMSOC] JASSS "Scope"
>> >
>> > JASSS as it has always been: focused on computational social science,
>> > not on just computational sociology. Many excellent papers across *all*
>> > the social sciences, and complex adaptive social systems, have been
>> > published in the Journal, including computational sociology. My own
>> > research interests are on conflict, climate change, disasters, complex
>> > crises, and CSS methodology, and I have always seen JASSS as a premier
>> > outlet for all of these and other topics, as long as the CSS approach is
>> > central. JASSS is a great asset to the CSS community precisely because
>> > it has managed to stay away from a single computational discipline. It
>> > should remain that way and stay abreast of the latest developments and
>> > advances in CSS.
>> >
>> >
>> > ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
>> > Claudio Cioffi-Revilla, Ph.D.
>> > Professor of Computational Social Science
>> > Interim Vice President for Research
>> > Director, Center for Social Complexity
>> > George Mason University
>> > 4400 University Drive, MSN 3A2
>> > Fairfax, Virginia 22030 USA
>> > Tel. (703) 993–2268  |  kheflin2 AT gmu DOT edu
>> > Executive Assistant: Ms. Kelly Heflin
>> >
>> > /All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point
>> > is to discover them.—/Galileo Galilei
>> >
>> >> On Dec 2, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Edmund Chattoe-Brown
>> >> <[log in to unmask]
>> >> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear All,
>> >>
>> >> Three thoughts:
>> >>
>> >> 1) Having one paper rejected is not very good evidence for base for any
>> >> "trend" in the policy or publication pattern of JASSS. Even having it
>> >> published in a paper with a higher IF doesn't necessarily make it a
>> >> better paper. (This is a worryingly common delusion amongst academics:
>> >> See "“Censorship”, Early Childhood Research Quarterly and Qualitative
>> >> Research: Not So Much Aced Out as an Own Goal?" on
>> >> https://leicester.academia.edu/EdmundChattoeBrown.)
>> >> 2) JASSS can only publish what it receives. It is possible that, for
>> >> example, psychology is less aware on average of this as a publishing
>> >> outlet than sociology is. That is certainly something that could be
>> >> investigated (and ESSA is already offering money to reach new
>> >> communities) but I doubt it is a "policy" nor resolvable by policy.
>> >> 3) I am not sure that the pursuit of impact factor is a very wise goal.
>> >> A free online journal will always get a "boost" over a print journal
>> >> (because increasingly people cite what they can get not what they
>> need.)
>> >> It may be a tactless example but an IF of 1.733 puts JASSS at 29 in the
>> >> 138 journal sociology list. That is pretty good for such a specialist
>> >> journal. Many of the journals above it are general and the specialist
>> >> ones usually have large practitioner readerships (Journal of Marriage
>> >> and the Family, Sociology of Education.) There are a few exceptions to
>> >> these patterns but on the whole I doubt we would _expect_ to be able to
>> >> beat most of these journals in impact. Let's submit, review and publish
>> >> the best articles we can (so that people will want to cite them) and
>> the
>> >> IF will take care of itself.
>> >>
>> >> I think there are useful discussions to be had about reaching and
>> >> including small or nascent ABM communities (history, criminology,
>> >> education, Social Network Analysis) both for JASSS and ESSA/WCSS but
>> >> this is a matter of "marketing" and personal contact/persuasion not
>> >> JASSS "policy". Inviting these groups to put together themes, tracks or
>> >> special issues is an option (as would be commissioning rolling subject
>> >> area reviews: See American Behavioural Scientist 1999, 42(10) for four
>> >> examples) but this doesn't really bear on the bulk of JASSS business.
>> >> (To get JASSS rolling back in 1998, we did a lot of persuasion to get
>> >> credible submissions until after a year or so people would do it
>> >> themselves. If we want more psych - or whatever - in JASSS, who knows a
>> >> really good "mainstream" psych who would be willing to be persuaded to
>> >> put something in?)
>> >>
>> >> All the best,
>> >>
>> >> Edmund
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>  Edmund Chattoe-Brown
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