Whilst reading all the communications recently i am surprised we have not heard from any clinical psychologists themseves on this subject?Perhaps understandably so as it would expose them within the BPS and face those institutional barriers to progress and further discrimination.Perhaps we as outsiders can influence the ongoing debate?Lets keep up the pressure!Hanif.Dear David,
The four if us (the ISL group- ‘Inquiry into schizophrenia label’ ) who wrote to Anne Cooke the editor of the report are still communicating with Anne Cooke. But all this is getting very time and effort-consuming. We are trying not get involved in what seem to be wider issues at DCP where there seem to be power games being played by the DCP Exec maybe with BME people being ‘used’. Eventually I suppose it is clinical psychologists themselves who can reform the DCP.
Suman
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Great Stuff Suman and thanks for pressing on with this.
There is a strong sense across the UK health field at this time that we should not be talking about race (and certainly not about discrimination) but this is easily the most naked draconian instance I'm familiar with of race being deliberately excised from professional discussion. One has to be very worried about the complacency on display here.
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I will also check with Zenobia Nadirshaw about this.
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From: Health of minority ethnic communities in the UK [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Suman Fernando
Sent: 10 December 2014 15:55
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David,
I am trying to find out - I thought someone on the list may know.
Suman
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Sent: 10 December 2014 15:52
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Before launching a headlong attack in the BPS it would be useful to find out exactly what went wrong with the attempt to form this group. It sounds very promising and you would think it could count on plenty of interest within the organisation. Time for some subtle detective work!
David
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Onderwerp: Re: Division of Clinical Psychology seems to exclude BME experienceI believe there was an attempt to form a new group within DCP for BME (racialized) groups - in fact some of the younger BME people told me about it - I guess it was prevented / suppressed. This may have been the attempt http://www.bps.org.uk/events/organisation-minorities-clinical-psychology-training-launch-conference
Suman
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Sent: 10 December 2014 15:31
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Many thanks for initiating this thread, Suman and for the sustained efforts of others to keep the discussion going. Those of us working broadly within the area are often too familiar with the scenario or perhaps too disheartened to comment or complain.
Best
Sangeeta
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On 10 Dec 2014, at 15:16, Suman Fernando <[log in to unmask]> wrote:Hanif and others who are conversant with social media,
Do you do social media? The blog by Phil Thomas can be tweeted I suppose and the original letter is on my website - http://www.sumanfernando.com/Letter%20to%20Anne%20Cooke.pdf
I do not tweet and although I have a face book page seldom use it - get confused when I do!
Best wishes,
Suman
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Sent: 10 December 2014 13:25
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I think all these people need to be named and shamed as widely as possible through all various media.
I certainly will do my bit locally in exposing DCP as a racist organisation.
Hanif.
On 10 Dec 2014, at 13:01, Suman Fernando <[log in to unmask]> wrote:Frank and others interested,
Anne Cooke the editor of the report fully accepted our criticism and expressed her ‘heartfelt’ apology saying she was ‘ashamed’ of having let this report through. There was then talk of even re-writing the report and also of issuing an official apology. But now having ‘consulted’ with others she is backtracking, and has failed to come up with the apology she promised! In the course of discussions we have learned that the Division of Clinical Psychology (DCP) that issued the report had quite recently disbanded its Race and Culture Faculty without consulting its members and there had been a great row within DCP but they held to what seemed to be essentially an institutionally racist action. None of the people who had been members of the (recently disbanded) Race and Culture Faculty had been consulted for the report - in fact several of the more prominent members did not even know that the report was being published and not invited to the launch.
All this may speak about what Clinical Psychology is like as a professional body.
Best wishes,
Suman
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Sent: 10 December 2014 12:45
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Dear Suman,
Well done for spotting this and following it up.
Best wishes
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Dr Frank Keating
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From: Health of minority ethnic communities in the UK [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Suman Fernando
Sent: 03 December 2014 16:28
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Subject: Division of Clinical Psychology seems to exclude BME experience
Six days ago, the BPS division of Clinical Psychology launched a report called ‘Understanding Psychosis and Schizophrenia’. apparently drawn up by ‘eminent clinical psychologists drawn from eight universities and six NHS trusts, together with service users’. Believe it or not, BME groups and people seem to have been totally excluded and of course issues (of ‘race’ and cultural diversity) that affect BME groups ignored!
A group of us who initiated ISL (Inquiry into Schizophrenia Label) have written to Anne Cooke the editor of the report and our letter is now available on my website - - http://www.sumanfernando.com/Letter%20to%20Anne%20Cooke.pdf
Read and see what you think!
Best wishes,
Suman
Suman Fernando
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