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Dear Hanif and Suman, Thank you for your email which I have recd today (the 12th of Dec) . I am in Mumbai and am receiving all the emails on my computer. I am Prof (Dr) Zenobia Nadirshaw -a Consultant Clinical Psychologist by background and have now retired from full time NHS work after 39 years. I am still actively involved with the Br Psychological Society and the Div of Clinical Psychology (DCP) and I chair a few Committees . I was Chair of the` Race ` and Culture Faculty until the DCP Executive Committee closed it down ,.I am still unsure exactly why and who took this decision . It was felt that we had not achieved much--although I had given enough evidence to show them that was not the case.. It is v good and reassuring to know that you are all concerned as us re the current situation of the closure . The DCP Executive has appointed Mr Stephen Weatherthead who is one of the DCP Executive Committee members to take the lead for the DCP Equality and Diversity strategy. He is committed to "creating a positive future" and in my opinion he is a reliable person to initiate these changes. My only worry is that they want to subsume the `race` and culture agenda under the Equality and Diversity strategy and one will lose the focus on the `race` and culture emphasis which is highly relevant in the psychology service provision area as well as psychology teaching area. I would be grateful if you continue to place emphasis on the `race` and culture perspective within the overall Equality and Diversity agenda. I wd be grateful if you remain in contact with me as I have a good understanding of all the issues and related matters.. I look forward to hearing from you... With thanks and good wishes, Prof (Dr ) Zenobia Nadirshaw On 12 December 2014 at 00:27, Hanif <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Whilst reading all the communications recently i am surprised we have not > heard from any clinical psychologists themseves on this subject? > Perhaps understandably so as it would expose them within the BPS and face > those institutional barriers to progress and further discrimination. > Perhaps we as outsiders can influence the ongoing debate? > Lets keep up the pressure! > > Hanif. > > > On 11 Dec 2014, at 10:03, Suman Fernando <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Dear David, > > > > The four if us (the ISL group- ‘Inquiry into schizophrenia label’ ) who > wrote to Anne Cooke the editor of the report are still communicating with > Anne Cooke. But all this is getting very time and effort-consuming. We are > trying not get involved in what seem to be wider issues at DCP where there > seem to be power games being played by the DCP Exec maybe with BME people > being ‘used’. Eventually I suppose it is clinical psychologists themselves > who can reform the DCP. > > > > Suman > > > > > > *From:* Health of minority ethnic communities in the UK [ > mailto:[log in to unmask] > <[log in to unmask]>] *On Behalf Of *Truswell David > (CENTRAL AND NORTH WEST LONDON NHS FOUNDATION TRUST) > *Sent:* 11 December 2014 09:52 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: Division of Clinical Psychology seems to exclude BME > experience > > > > Great Stuff Suman and thanks for pressing on with this. > > > > There is a strong sense across the UK health field at this time that > we should not be talking about race (and certainly not about > discrimination) but this is easily the most naked draconian instance > I'm familiar with of race being deliberately excised > from professional discussion. One has to be very worried about the > complacency on display here. > > > > > > Regards > > David Truswell > Senior Project Manager > > > > Trust Headquarters > > Stephenson House > > 75 Hampstead Rd. > > LONDON > > NW1 2PL > > > Mobile Number:07969 692315 > > email: [log in to unmask] > > > > Web address: www.cnwl.nhs.uk > > > > Central and North West London NHS Foundation Trust > > Stephenson House, 75 Hampstead Road, London NW1 2PL > > > > Central and North West London NHS Foundation Trust (CNWL) is one of the > > largest trusts in the UK, caring for people with a wide range of physical > and > > mental health needs. We have approximately 7,000 staff who provide > healthcare > > to a third of London’s population and across wider geographical areas, > including > > Milton Keynes, Kent, Surrey and Hampshire. > > > > As a Foundation Trust we involve service users, carers, the public, staff > and partner > > organisations in the way that we are run and our future development. If > you are > > interested in becoming a member of our Foundation Trust please visit: > www.cnwl. > > nhs.uk/get-involved > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Health of minority ethnic communities in the UK [ > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Raghu Raghavan [ > [log in to unmask]] > *Sent:* 10 December 2014 16:12 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: Division of Clinical Psychology seems to exclude BME > experience > > Warning: This message contains unverified links which may not be safe. You should only click links if you are sure they are from a trusted source. > > Dear Suman > > > > I will also check with Zenobia Nadirshaw about this. > > > > Regards > > > > Raghu > > > > --------------------------------------- > > *Raghu Raghavan* > > Professor of Mental Health > > Acting Head of Research (Nursing and Midwifery Research Centre) > > Deputy Director Mary Seacole Research Centre > > Faculty of Health and Life Sciences > > De Montfort University > > Room 3.26 Edith Murphy House > > Leicester LE1 9BH > > United Kingdom > > Email: [log in to unmask] > > Tel: +44 (0)116 2013831 > > > > *From:* Health of minority ethnic communities in the UK [ > mailto:[log in to unmask] > <[log in to unmask]>] *On Behalf Of *Suman Fernando > *Sent:* 10 December 2014 15:55 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: Division of Clinical Psychology seems to exclude BME > experience > > > > David, > > > > I am trying to find out - I thought someone on the list may know. > > > > Suman > > *From:* Ingleby, J.D. (David) [mailto:[log in to unmask] > <[log in to unmask]>] > *Sent:* 10 December 2014 15:52 > *To:* Suman Fernando; [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* RE: Division of Clinical Psychology seems to exclude BME > experience > > > > Before launching a headlong attack in the BPS it would be useful to find > out exactly what went wrong with the attempt to form this group. It sounds > very promising and you would think it could count on plenty of interest > within the organisation. Time for some subtle detective work! > > > > David > ------------------------------ > > *Van:* Health of minority ethnic communities in the UK [ > [log in to unmask]] namens Suman Fernando [ > [log in to unmask]] > *Verzonden:* woensdag 10 december 2014 16:43 > *Aan:* [log in to unmask] > *Onderwerp:* Re: Division of Clinical Psychology seems to exclude BME > experience > > I believe there was an attempt to form a new group within DCP for BME > (racialized) groups - in fact some of the younger BME people told me about > it - I guess it was prevented / suppressed. This may have been the attempt > http://www.bps.org.uk/events/organisation-minorities-clinical-psychology-training-launch-conference > > > > Suman > > > > *From:* Health of minority ethnic communities in the UK [ > mailto:[log in to unmask] > <[log in to unmask]>] *On Behalf Of *Sangeeta Chattoo > *Sent:* 10 December 2014 15:31 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: Division of Clinical Psychology seems to exclude BME > experience > > > > Many thanks for initiating this thread, Suman and for the sustained > efforts of others to keep the discussion going. Those of us working > broadly within the area are often too familiar with the scenario or perhaps > too disheartened to comment or complain. > > Best > > Sangeeta > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 10 Dec 2014, at 15:16, Suman Fernando <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Hanif and others who are conversant with social media, > > > > Do you do social media? The blog by Phil Thomas can be tweeted I suppose > and the original letter is on my website - > http://www.sumanfernando.com/Letter%20to%20Anne%20Cooke.pdf > > > > I do not tweet and although I have a face book page seldom use it - get > confused when I do! > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Suman > > > > *From:* Health of minority ethnic communities in the UK [ > mailto:[log in to unmask] > <[log in to unmask]>] *On Behalf Of *Hanif > *Sent:* 10 December 2014 13:25 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: Division of Clinical Psychology seems to exclude BME > experience > > > > I think all these people need to be named and shamed as widely as possible > through all various media. > I certainly will do my bit locally in exposing DCP as a racist > organisation. > Hanif. > > > > > On 10 Dec 2014, at 13:01, Suman Fernando <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Frank and others interested, > > > > Anne Cooke the editor of the report fully accepted our criticism and > expressed her ‘heartfelt’ apology saying she was ‘ashamed’ of having let > this report through. There was then talk of even re-writing the report and > also of issuing an official apology. But now having ‘consulted’ with > others she is backtracking, and has failed to come up with the apology she > promised! In the course of discussions we have learned that the Division > of Clinical Psychology (DCP) that issued the report had quite recently > disbanded its Race and Culture Faculty without consulting its members and > there had been a great row within DCP but they held to what seemed to be > essentially an institutionally racist action. None of the people who had > been members of the (recently disbanded) Race and Culture Faculty had been > consulted for the report - in fact several of the more prominent members > did not even know that the report was being published and not invited to > the launch. > > > > All this may speak about what Clinical Psychology is like as a > professional body. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Suman > > > > > > *From:* Keating, Frank [mailto:[log in to unmask] > <[log in to unmask]>] > *Sent:* 10 December 2014 12:45 > *To:* Suman Fernando; [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* RE: Division of Clinical Psychology seems to exclude BME > experience > > > > Dear Suman, > > Well done for spotting this and following it up. > > Best wishes > > frank > > > > Dr Frank Keating > > Director of Research and Graduate Studies > > Department of Social Work > > Royal Holloway University of London > > Egham > > Surrey > > TW20 0EX > > Tel: (44) 01784414964 > > > > *From:* Health of minority ethnic communities in the UK [ > mailto:[log in to unmask] > <[log in to unmask]>] *On Behalf Of *Suman Fernando > *Sent:* 03 December 2014 16:28 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Division of Clinical Psychology seems to exclude BME experience > > > > > > Six days ago, the BPS division of Clinical Psychology launched a report > called ‘Understanding Psychosis and Schizophrenia’. apparently drawn up by > ‘eminent clinical psychologists drawn from eight universities and six NHS > trusts, together with service users’. Believe it or not, BME groups and > people seem to have been totally excluded and of course issues (of ‘race’ > and cultural diversity) that affect BME groups ignored! > > > > A group of us who initiated ISL (Inquiry into Schizophrenia Label) have > written to Anne Cooke the editor of the report and our letter is now > available on my website - - > http://www.sumanfernando.com/Letter%20to%20Anne%20Cooke.pdf > > > > Read and see what you think! > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Suman > > > > > > Suman Fernando > > WEBSITE: http://www.sumanfernando.com > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************************************************** > > This message may contain confidential information. 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