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Moonlight Mile is a favourite of mine too, Doug but it's pipped by the Doors' Moonlight Drive. Let's swim to the moon, uh huh Let's climb through the tide Penetrate the evenin' that the City sleeps to hide Let's swim out tonight, love It's our turn to try Parked beside the ocean On our moonlight drive Let's swim to the moon, uh huh Let's climb through the tide Surrender to the waiting worlds That lap against our side .... Tim, I am intrigued by your comments on the difference between The Stones and The Doors. (Gee, I nearly typed The Stores and The Drones then.) It is true that Morrison approached performance as drama whereas Jagger is more a posturer (a damned fine one mind you). Doug, the two Stones albums I play most, besides Sticky Fingers, are Let it Bleed and Beggar's Banquet but I wouldn't say the songs plough into my unconsciousness. Canadia's (!) own Neil Young is more likely to do that for whatever the reason. Bill > On 21 Nov 2014, at 4:58 am, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Ah, good points, Tim. > > And, yes, it’s the Stones, up to & including Exile, that I love. When I hear, as Sheila says, a classic Doors song I ‘know’ it & maybe s she said ‘sing along,’ but then go on. The best Stones songs are deep in my (un)conscious. What that means I don’t know, but one aspect has to do with not the sincerity of the singer (or even the writer) but of the lyrics themselves. My still favourite Stones song (not well known) is Moonlight Mile, where lyric, music,performance mesh perfectly. > > Nowadays I listen to a lot of the omen singer/songwriters. And then, for perfection in a small space, so much of the late JJ Cale, as one example. Oh I could go on, & this ties in to my other conversation with Lawrence: I don’t so much choose one singer or band over some others, but individual songs & performances I return to… > > D > >> On Nov 20, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Tim Allen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Hi Doug and Bill. Hope you don't mind this lurker sneaking in on this one. The Doors and the Stones, two very different bands, two very different front men, two very different experiences. And the fact that one came to an abrupt end while the other went on forever doesn't help. >> >> Morrison meant every word he sang. Jagger didn't. I'm not saying this with reference to any comparative value - music doesn't work in the same way as poetry. Although Morrison meant every word he sang he did it in a way which came across as drama and although Jagger did not mean what he sang it came across as real. Weird eh? Musically the two bands were very different too despite the fact that both were white interpreters of the Blues, but talking about that is out of my area of expertise. I tend to return to the Doors every few years and just wish that they had produced more. I return to the Stones of the classic era too, and musically they still do more for me than the Doors, but nothing that they've done since then, except maybe Start Me Up, has done anything for me. >> >> Cheers >> >> Tim A. >> >>> On 20 Nov 2014, at 16:26, Douglas Barbour wrote: >>> >>> Well, I’ll tell you Bill, I certainly listened to that first record (remember a party at which it & the new Stones album were played over & over all night). >>> But, have to confess that despite some songs, & the playing, I kept listening to, among others, the Stones, & just did not to The Doors. What lasts, for each of us: as I say, a matter of taste… >>> >>> Doug >>>> On Nov 19, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>> C'mon, Doug. Doors pushed it and most of the time expressively. >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>>>> On 19/11/2014, at 6:20 AM, Doug Barbour wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I guess, & you get that across, Bill. >>>>> >>>>> But, taste & all that... >>>>> >>>>> Doug >>>>>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 3:36 AM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> When Jim Morrison speak/sings, you're there. >>>>>> Back when. That voice so warm, rousing, tortured, >>>>>> gentle, gruff, by turns. Now, of course, arrested. >>>>>> >>>>>> But listen to Jim deliver words like Night, Feel, >>>>>> Go, Like, Delight, More, Touch, and you're still >>>>>> teen, yearning, reaching, life opening out. >>>>>> >>>>>> No matter who covers Doors songs now, >>>>>> no matter how well, technically, musically, >>>>>> your ears consign. That fire they cannot light. >>>>>> >>>>>> bw > > Douglas Barbour > [log in to unmask] > > Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuation 2 (UofAPress). > Recording Dates (Rubicon Press). > > that we are only > as we find out we are > > Charles Olson >