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Doug, your range of music is always amazing, in terms of taste and choice. I am speaking now from direct experience, more than from the conversation here. (I wrote "hear" by accident) :) Music runs in your blood, and we know this is true of Lawrence, as well! Sheila On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Ah, good points, Tim. > > And, yes, it’s the Stones, up to & including Exile, that I love. When I > hear, as Sheila says, a classic Doors song I ‘know’ it & maybe s she said > ‘sing along,’ but then go on. The best Stones songs are deep in my > (un)conscious. What that means I don’t know, but one aspect has to do with > not the sincerity of the singer (or even the writer) but of the lyrics > themselves. My still favourite Stones song (not well known) is Moonlight > Mile, where lyric, music,performance mesh perfectly. > > Nowadays I listen to a lot of the omen singer/songwriters. And then, for > perfection in a small space, so much of the late JJ Cale, as one example. > Oh I could go on, & this ties in to my other conversation with Lawrence: I > don’t so much choose one singer or band over some others, but individual > songs & performances I return to… > > D > > On Nov 20, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Tim Allen < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Hi Doug and Bill. Hope you don't mind this lurker sneaking in on this > one. The Doors and the Stones, two very different bands, two very different > front men, two very different experiences. And the fact that one came to an > abrupt end while the other went on forever doesn't help. > > > > Morrison meant every word he sang. Jagger didn't. I'm not saying this > with reference to any comparative value - music doesn't work in the same > way as poetry. Although Morrison meant every word he sang he did it in a > way which came across as drama and although Jagger did not mean what he > sang it came across as real. Weird eh? Musically the two bands were very > different too despite the fact that both were white interpreters of the > Blues, but talking about that is out of my area of expertise. I tend to > return to the Doors every few years and just wish that they had produced > more. I return to the Stones of the classic era too, and musically they > still do more for me than the Doors, but nothing that they've done since > then, except maybe Start Me Up, has done anything for me. > > > > Cheers > > > > Tim A. > > > > On 20 Nov 2014, at 16:26, Douglas Barbour wrote: > > > >> Well, I’ll tell you Bill, I certainly listened to that first record > (remember a party at which it & the new Stones album were played over & > over all night). > >> But, have to confess that despite some songs, & the playing, I kept > listening to, among others, the Stones, & just did not to The Doors. What > lasts, for each of us: as I say, a matter of taste… > >> > >> Doug > >> On Nov 19, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> > >>> C'mon, Doug. Doors pushed it and most of the time expressively. > >>> > >>> Bill > >>> > >>> On 19/11/2014, at 6:20 AM, Doug Barbour wrote: > >>> > >>>> I guess, & you get that across, Bill. > >>>> > >>>> But, taste & all that... > >>>> > >>>> Doug > >>>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 3:36 AM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> When Jim Morrison speak/sings, you're there. > >>>>> Back when. That voice so warm, rousing, tortured, > >>>>> gentle, gruff, by turns. Now, of course, arrested. > >>>>> > >>>>> But listen to Jim deliver words like Night, Feel, > >>>>> Go, Like, Delight, More, Touch, and you're still > >>>>> teen, yearning, reaching, life opening out. > >>>>> > >>>>> No matter who covers Doors songs now, > >>>>> no matter how well, technically, musically, > >>>>> your ears consign. That fire they cannot light. > >>>>> > >>>>> bw > > > > Douglas Barbour > [log in to unmask] > > Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuation 2 > (UofAPress). > Recording Dates (Rubicon Press). > > that we are only > as we find out we are > > Charles Olson >