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I agree with Liz and Rachel's earlier comments. Option 3 would be better, but I am afraid I would have very little or no time at all to look at and enhance the records. Without some identified resource to employ a dedicated person to do the work the data won't be entered, however much I think it would be useful (and I do think this project is!). We were able to take part in SHINE, but only because there was an identified pot of money to bid for which we could employ someone to do the work. We undertook a data exchange with the National Trust in 2008 where the data was 'dumped' into the HER (some reconciliation was done beforehand). I'm afraid that most of these records still require 'cleaning' and linking to events and sources and I can't see it being done until I get a pot of money/student/volunteer to sort it out. Eleanor Eleanor Kingston Archaeology and Heritage Adviser Lake District National Park Authority Direct Dial: 01539 792712 www.lakedistrict.gov.uk<http://www.lakedistrict.gov.uk> From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Webster Sent: 20 November 2014 13:25 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MASSMAIL] Re: E Conference Day 4 - If this goes ahead, What is the most efficient method? Having done a bit of reconciliation, I don't think that the cross referencing was a great deal of help. I didn't use it at all as I was doing a 10% sample and just went through the records in order. Perhaps as part of a bigger project it would make sense to look at the cross referenced sites as you might be able to eliminate records that are identical quickly. Otherwise, mapping (in the cartographic sense) is the way to go. Chris Webster Somerset Historic Environment Record Somerset Heritage Centre Brunel Way Taunton TA2 6SF 01823 347434 Online HER at www.somerset.gov.uk/her<http://www.somerset.gov.uk/her> From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rachel Grahame (Tees Archaeology) Sent: 20 November 2014 13:03 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [MASSMAIL] Re: E Conference Day 4 - If this goes ahead, What is the most efficient method? I would agree with that. Another question regarding option 3 (sorry if someone's already asked/answered) - would the proposed website for the NRHE data have a map based element? This would make it much easier to cross reference records. Rachel Rachel Grahame Archaeologist (HER) Tees Archaeology, Sir William Gray House, Clarence Road, Hartlepool, TS24 8BT Email [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> | Tel 01429 523457 | www.teesarchaeology.com<http://www.teesarchaeology.com/> *Please note I normally work Monday-Thursday* ________________________________ From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sam Mellonie Sent: 20 November 2014 12:39 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [HERFORUM] [MASSMAIL] Re: E Conference Day 4 - If this goes ahead, What is the most efficient method? I haven't done any test reconciliations, and have no idea of the scale of data we would be looking at for us, but I would have thought that cross referencing first would largely be a duplication of effort! If going down the process of cross referencing, you may as well just update the HER record at the same time? Sam Mellonie Technical Officer Historic Environment Record/Building Control Regeneration and Business Directorate Central Bedfordshire Council Priory House, Monks Walk, Chicksands, Shefford, Bedfordshire, SG17 5TQ Direct dial: 0300 300 6038 | Internal: 76038 | Email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Central Bedfordshire - A great place to live and work - www.centralbedfordshire.gov.uk<http://www.centralbedfordshire.gov.uk/> Information security classification* of this email: Not protected *Information security definitions: Restricted - Sensitive Data only to be sent via secure email Protected - Contains personal data covered by the Data Protection Act Not Protected - General Data From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of MacLean, Sarah Sent: 20 November 2014 12:20 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [MASSMAIL] Re: E Conference Day 4 - If this goes ahead, What is the most efficient method? Following on from this Nick and definitely project related! - Did those of you who have been undertaking some test reconciliation of records (yourself, Chris, Graham and Ben) find it easier or quicker if records already had been cross referenced with NRHE? Or did it make no difference? 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