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Hi Siobhan, We don't have the exact set-up though in the past we've had some of the subject teams doing some basic cataloguing (they do a bit of classification in that they specify classmarks on the orders). I've always found explaining LCSH really tricky and think it's it's very much something you pick up the more you do. Katrina From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Siobhan Wood Sent: 26 November 2014 12:44 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Session 3: Training II - who assigns the LCSH subject headings / classification Here at the University of Reading the allocation of LCSH and classification is split between cataloguers and Liaison Librarians (including 3 trainee LL's on a 3 year fixed term contract). For some subjects the LL's allocate the LCSH and classification and give the books to their allocated cataloguer to check, input and edit the records while any remaining subjects are the full responsibility of the cataloguer. LL's are expected to create valid headings/ strings but not code them. I would be interested in hearing if this practice is or has been followed elsewhere and the advantages/disadvantages of such an arrangement. Siobhan ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Siobhan Wood Metadata Co-ordinator / Liaison Librarian (Geography and Environmental Science) University of Reading Library, Whiteknights, PO Box 223, Reading RG6 6AE Tel: 0118 378 8778 www.reading.ac.uk/library<http://www.reading.ac.uk/library> From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bernadette O'Reilly Sent: 26 November 2014 09:56 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: [CIG-E-FORUM] Session 3: Training II - special areas Hello again Welcome to the third session of the 'Getting started in cataloguing' e-forum. As well as continuing threads from yesterday's sessions, we invite your questions and ideas in this session about training and recruitment for special skills in cataloguing, such as subject cataloguing, classification, non-book materials and rare books. I give a lot of training myself for LCSH and non-book materials (RDA/MARC). I have to admit that I have no expertise in other subject thesauri, classification, Dewey or rare books, but I know a little about how my colleagues handle training in these areas. Esther and Helen will be joining in when they can, and we hope that the experts among you will be able to offer specialised advice. We have come up with some starter questions, but please feel free to introduce other topics: - Can you recommend any training material for LCSH and/or other subject thesauri or methods? - Can you recommend any training material for LC Classification or other classification systems? - Is it practical and/or worthwhile for aspiring cataloguers to gain skills in cataloguing, classification or specialist areas before they apply for posts? - Does your organisation expect everyone to deal with subject cataloguing and non-book cataloguing straight away, or do you give simpler work to newer cataloguers and introduce these skills gradually? - If subject cataloguing is not a specialist role in your organisation, how do cataloguers cope with the challenges of maintaining a good repertoire from LCSH and/or other fast-growing thesauri? - If your organisation uses LCSH, are cataloguers expected to be very strict in applying all the scope notes and SHM instruction sheets? If not, what are your priorities? - What, if anything, is your organisation doing to implement the new LCGFT thesaurus? Is there any training material which you would recommend? - Do you expect the LCSH system to be as dominant in 5 years' time as it is now? - What other subject cataloguing systems should aspiring cataloguers be aware of? What are their advantages? - Is non-book cataloguing a specialist role in your organisation? - How much use is your organisation making of the new 34X fields and what kind of training has been provided? Are your cataloguers comfortable about using them? Can you recommend any materials? - Has your organisation implemented RDA for rare books? If so, did it involve much re-training? Can you recommend any materials? - Given the frequent changes and growth in cataloguing standards in recent years, is the burden of knowledge and skills expected of cataloguing staff becoming unmanageable? Any survival tips? We look forward to hearing from you. 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