Hi Louise

 

We have found ebook records to be often really not what we need at all, leading to all sorts of matching (or non matching) issues in our discovery layer.

 

To be honest we’ve not had the time to address this up until now, but it’s on my list to look at again in conjunction with my colleagues in Acquisitions to see if there’s a better way to work, especially now we have Alma

 

Katrina

 

From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Goodall, Louise M.
Sent: 26 November 2014 11:49
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Hi all,

 

Picking up on what Esther has said, the quality of MARC records provided by e-book suppliers is of real concern to us here at Leicester. Subject headings are very often mangled to the point that they become useless, or are so general that you would actually be better off without them (e.g. LCSH “Computer science” in a book about something incredibly specific). The large numbers of records mean that they cannot be edited individually. We have tried using MarcEdit with limited success, and now we are pre-processing the records to remove the most egregious mistakes. But some things, Like Capitalizing Every Word Of The Title, seem insoluble.

 

I would be interested to know if everyone else is suffering the same problem, or if they have found a way around this difficulty.

 

Louise Goodall

Cataloguer

University of Leicester

 

From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Esther Arens
Sent: 26 November 2014 10:54
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Oops, forgot to change the subject line... done now. Sorry!
 

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The Precentory
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. November 2014 um 10:44 Uhr
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Ah, that last point (because of which I've now changed the subject for this thread) is of course very different for us: About a third of the students are distance learners; some are able to visit the library in person but others will never do so. This makes subject cataloguing actually important for electronic resources - despite the fact that many (if not most) of the bib data for those are loaded without cataloguers' intervention.
 

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The Precentory
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Leicester LE1 5DE

 

 

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In my organisation we pay only cursory attention to what AACR2 says, and I don’t think we follow any rules for adding subjects to records. It’s usually just very board, and then we use a specialist classification scheme for shelving (Moys).

 

People rarely search the catalogue by subject (though maybe that’s because the subject headings are not great!) – they tend to turn up i8n the library in person and want to be pointed at the relevant section of shelving!

 

Helen.

 

From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bernadette O'Reilly
Sent: 26 November 2014 09:56
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Subject: [CIG-E-FORUM] Session 3: Training II - special areas

 

Hello again

 

Welcome to the third session of the ‘Getting started in cataloguing’ e-forum.

 

As well as continuing threads from yesterday’s sessions, we invite your questions and ideas in this session about training and recruitment for special skills in cataloguing, such as subject cataloguing, classification, non-book materials and rare books.  I give a lot of training myself for LCSH and non-book materials (RDA/MARC).  I have to admit that I have no expertise in other subject thesauri, classification, Dewey or rare books, but I know a little about how my colleagues handle training in these areas.  Esther and Helen will be joining in when they can, and we hope that the experts among you will be able to offer specialised advice.

 

We have come up with some starter questions, but please feel free to introduce other topics:

 

- Can you recommend any training material for LCSH and/or other subject thesauri or methods?

- Can you recommend any training material for LC Classification or other classification systems?

- Is it practical and/or worthwhile for aspiring cataloguers to gain skills in cataloguing, classification or specialist areas before they apply for posts?

 

- Does your organisation expect everyone to deal with subject cataloguing and non-book cataloguing straight away, or do you give simpler work to newer cataloguers and introduce these skills gradually?

 

- If subject cataloguing is not a specialist role in your organisation, how do cataloguers cope with the challenges of maintaining a good repertoire from LCSH and/or other fast-growing thesauri?

- If your organisation uses LCSH, are cataloguers expected to be very strict in applying all the scope notes and SHM instruction sheets?  If not, what are your priorities?

- What, if anything, is your organisation doing to implement the new LCGFT thesaurus? Is there any training material which you would recommend?

 

- Do you expect the LCSH system to be as dominant in 5 years’ time as it is now?

 

- What other subject cataloguing systems should aspiring cataloguers be aware of?  What are their advantages?

- Is non-book cataloguing a specialist role in your organisation?

- How much use is your organisation making of the new 34X fields and what kind of training has been provided? Are your cataloguers comfortable about using them?  Can you recommend any materials?

- Has your organisation implemented RDA for rare books? If so, did it involve much re-training? Can you recommend any materials?

 

- Given the frequent changes and growth in cataloguing standards in recent years, is the burden of knowledge and skills expected of cataloguing staff becoming unmanageable?  Any survival tips?

 

We look forward to hearing from you.

 

Best wishes,

Bernadette

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