Yes, the ability to go and find the information and teach yourself is (in my mind) a must. To do cataloguing you do need a fairly enquiring mind anyway, nothing
can ever teach you how to catalogue everything that comes across your desk (in the last month I have catalogued musical instruments, puppets, CDs and a set of flip-charts) so being willing to put in the leg work to find out how to catalogue these is good.
But obviously, having a few places to look to start is useful and knowing roughly what you’re needing to find out.
Katrina
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It’s really interesting hearing how much in-house training people (have to) do. I’m really getting the impression that people who want to embark on a cataloguing
career only really need to show an interest and a willingness to put the hours in, and most of the training can/will be done in-house or is self-taught anyway.
Helen.
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Hi
We implemented RDA at Glasgow earlier in 2014. I used all of the materials mentioned below in familiarising myself with RDA and for compiling training for our
staff. In particular the Cambridge, Oxford, & LC training materials were invaluable and saved me a huge amount of time. Like most who have implemented, we still catalogue with AACR2 when we cannot get a good quality RDA record, but increasingly cataloguers
are converting these records to RDA.
I included a presentation on FRBR for our cataloguers, but I’m not convinced that 6 -9 months down the line they have retained this background or find it helpful
in their cataloguing. However they have adapted very quickly to RDA, much more quickly than I anticipated. Problems that have arisen for mainstream materials tended to be problems that cropped up even when using AACR2. We have used the transition to RDA to
address some cataloguing practices.
We have moved on now from mainstream materials to e-resources, videorecordings, and are looking currently at music scores and sound recordings. Interestingly
when doing some cataloguing of e-videos, we found it easier to catalogue with RDA than AACR2.
As to training still in AACR2. This is a difficult one, but since cataloguers have still to deal with AACR2 for different types of resources as well as retro
cataloguing, we still have to cover both. We had a new member of staff just around the time we implemented, and I found that there really was no option but to do this. She coped very well.
Cataloguers, on the whole, are not using the toolkit, they find it is difficult to navigate and to get answers for even simple questions. We did our own simplified
instructions and have also found some materials on the web from other institutions helpful, particularly for non-book materials, e.g Stanford & Yale produce good documentation.
Regards
Rosemary
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Hi all,
I hope everyone feels refreshed after their lunch break and ready for our second session of Getting into cataloguing: Training with RDA/AACR2 and MARC21 for mainstream materials.
The following links to training material (RDA in particular) and references were already mention this morning, so I compile them here:
John Bowman's 'Essential Cataloguing'
Ed Jones' 'RDA and serials cataloguing'
Stephen Miller's 'Metadata for digital resources'
Anne Welsh's 'Practical Cataloguing'
Anything else you'd like to add?
Also, some more questions for us to ponder:
- What has proven most effective for you and/or your trainees?
- Do you still train in AACR2? Or know of anyone?
- If you have implemented RDA, how much time do you spent on FRBR principles?
- Do you think RDA itself a manageable resource for new cataloguers? If you think not, how do you find or provide simplified materials?
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Esther Arens MCLIP
The Precentory
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Leicester LE1 5DE
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