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All this talk of pre-syllabic-/n/ environments brings me back to when I lived in Minnesota and discovered the fantastic thing that is the Minnesota [kɪɾɪn] "juvenile cat". This and other items provided me with no end of sociophonological entertainment during my three years there.

2014-10-09 20:09 GMT-07:00 Angus B. Grieve-Smith <[log in to unmask]>:
    For me too, flapping before syllabic /n/ is not common because I usually have a glottal stop in that environment - as you probably know, Aaron, since you wrote a paper on my dialect!  (Hudson Valley English)  However, my feeling is that if I don't say a glottal stop there, I'd flap before I'd release.

On 10/9/2014 3:34 PM, Aaron Dinkin wrote:
The only one of these I'm *really* surprised by is "executed". I'm only *somewhat* surprised by "society", "proximity", and "ethnicity", since in those at least the syllable that follows /t/ is a possible bearer of secondary stress; as for "pittance", for me at least, following syllabic /n/ isn't a possible environment for flapping.

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