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Not AAVE, maybe, but it is my impression that African-American communities have elaborated a number of formal registers (AAFE?) and I associate a carefully released /t/, particularly in low frequency, prestige words and the -ity suffix, with those registers. In my college radio station there was a "Heritage Department" dedicated to African-heritage genres like soul, reggae and hip-hop. The /t/ in "Heritage" was always released, and IIRC the /t/s in "Department" were always glottal stops or completely elided. On October 9, 2014 3:08:06 PM EDT, Miriam Meyerhoff <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Australia and NZ flaps variably. > >As does US English. Stephanie Strassel’s work on this variable in the >1990s using the LDC corpora as her dataset showed very nicely that even >‘Mericans seldom if ever flap words like “veto” and I sat through a >formal lecture of Angela Davis' in 1998 (so no, she was not speaking >AAVE) and she flapped: >write up >better >get out >commit a crime >educated > >and did not flap: >society >proximity >ethnicity >paid a pittance >executed > >chrz, mm > > >Miriam Meyerhoff >Professor of Linguistics >LALS, Victoria University of Wellington >PO Box 600 >Wellington 6140 >NEW ZEALAND > >+64 4 463 5600 x 5614 >Office: von Zedlitz 301 > >http://www.victoria.ac.nz/lals/about/staff/miriam-meyerhoff > > > > >On 10/10/2014, at 7:38, Daniel Ezra Johnson ><[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> No, Australia does not have non-flapping! >> >> I will now take the opportunity to plug the upcoming NWAV talk of me >and Jen Nycz: >> Partial mergers and near-distinctions: stylistic layering in dialect >acquisition >> It's not exactly about what Greg mentions above, but rather close, in >the scheme of things. >> Considering this type of merger (which I think I have myself too, as >long as we're being anecdotal) a late phonological rule is appealing, >but is perhaps challenged by the existence of the opposite pattern, >where a speaker is distinct in conversation but merged when you ask >them about it. >> Don't want to spoil our talk, though, so I'll stop there! >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Aaron Dinkin ><[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> On Thu, 9 Oct 2014, Gregory R Guy wrote: >> >> During childhood and adolescence he put on Aussie characteristics >(e.g vowels, non-flapping of intervocalic /t/) >> >> Wait, Australia has non-flapping of intervocalic /t/? >> >> -Aaron J. Dinkin >> Dr. Whom >> >> >> >######################################################################## >> >> The Variationist List - discussion of everything related to >variationist sociolinguistics. >> >> To send messages to the VAR-L list (subscribers only), write to: >> [log in to unmask] >> >> To unsubscribe from the VAR-L list, click the following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=VAR-L&A=1 >> >> >> The Variationist List - discussion of everything related to >variationist sociolinguistics. >> >> To send messages to the VAR-L list (subscribers only), write to: >> [log in to unmask] >> >> To unsubscribe from the VAR-L list, click the following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=VAR-L&A=1 >> > >######################################################################## > >The Variationist List - discussion of everything related to >variationist sociolinguistics. > >To send messages to the VAR-L list (subscribers only), write to: >[log in to unmask] > >To unsubscribe from the VAR-L list, click the following link: >https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=VAR-L&A=1 -- Angus B. Grieve-Smith [log in to unmask] ######################################################################## The Variationist List - discussion of everything related to variationist sociolinguistics. To send messages to the VAR-L list (subscribers only), write to: [log in to unmask] To unsubscribe from the VAR-L list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=VAR-L&A=1