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POETtryetc thanks everybody -my son seems to have fixed it all(clever son! ) -touch wood -but not much wood in computer perhaps that's what was the problem P old ancient and worse -----Original Message----- From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lawrence Upton Sent: 22 October 2014 10:54 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: hopefully Pat snap* ||--__* ||--__* ||--__ Try Editpad, if you have trouble with plain text. Also useful when docs won't open.It'll open them though you have to tidy up the junk. Free for personal use - many other products are available, as is said; but this is my current L On 22 October 2014 09:25, PATRICK MCMANUS <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > but can I get it to plain text -remember being rebuked long ago!!! ah > settings!!!!!!oops has it sent itself oops error ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh snap > FOUND he found a seal in a sealed room pmcmanus > r611 >