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Cathy - I think it depends on who is writing the job and person spec. Often these are written by HR or H&S managers. Or, dare I say, OH managers who may not recognise the benefit of a strong qualification! I think it is the same reason there are so few mental health nurses, OT's and Physios working in OH. Controversial! Jean On 10 October 2014 19:48, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I think it depends on the stance taken by the prospective employer. The SLA > could well be the underlying reason and possibly SEQUOHS. > > If you want to discuss further options please contact me off list: > [log in to unmask] > > Anne > > > On 10/10/2014 19:41, "Cathy Martin" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Hi Anne > > Thanks for this information. One of the reasons I raised the question > was that > > I had had a conversation with a recruitment agent regarding roles they > were > > recruiting to for a provider. I was told that the provider had > stipulated OHAs > > on part 3 of the register only and the reason given was that their SLAs > > required it. I am concerned that some providers may make this an > integral > > part of future tenders thus excluding those of us who have equally good > > experience and non NMC approved courses. I also wonder whether employers > > understand that my qualification and experience is just as good as that > of > > Someone who holds the SCPHN. > > > > > > Cathy > > > >> On 10 Oct 2014, at 18:39, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hello Cathy > >> > >> NMC approved courses must meet all the standards that the NMC set > including > >> a requirement to undertake a period of practice supervised by another > OHN > >> who holds SCPHN registration. Your MSc is an excellent one. Sadly, it > is not > >> approved by the NMC as it was not designed to comply with NMC > requirements. > >> There was a short window of opportunity to gain registration by > submission > >> of a portfolio. That has not been available since about 2010. > >> > >> > >> The only way now to become registered on the NMC SCPHN register is by > >> completing an NMC approved programme which confers SCPHN registration on > >> graduation. Crystal ball gazing - the new National School of > Occupational > >> Health will, I am sure, approve courses for OHNs in the future. By that > >> stage SCPHN registration may be of lesser importance. > >> > >> If I were recruiting an OHN to join a department I have managed their > >> registration as a SCPHN would be of lesser importance to me than their > >> competence, OH skills set and their education in OH. Holding an MSc from > >> Birmingham Uni would certainly be a distinct advantage. I have raised > this > >> with the Diana Kloss in her capacity as Chair of the Council for Work > and > >> Health. > >> > >> Anne > >> > >> Anne Harriss > >> Course Director > >> LONDON SOUTH BANK UNIVERSITY > >> > >> > >>> On 10/10/2014 13:48, "Cathy Martin" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >>> > >>> I'm sure this question has been asked before but here goes - Has > anyone else > >>> noticed that many more employers are asking for OH advisors to be on > part 3 > >>> of > >>> the register? I'm experienced and have what I consider to be a good > >>> qualification (PgDip OH, University of Birmingham) yet I would not be > >>> considered for some roles because I am not on part 3 of the register. > I > >>> understand the need for accredited courses which ensure a standard of > >>> competency for occupational health but certainly when I undertook my > course, > >>> which wasn't that long ago, there weren't many of these available. If I > >>> choose > >>> to undertake further study to be able to call myself a specialist > practioner > >>> and enter the hallowed halls of part 3 of the register, how would I go > about > >>> that? My PgDip was taken at masters level. I thought it was pretty > good > >>> but > >>> clearly if the trend is for employers to request Part 3 of the > register for > >>> OH > >>> positions, I will have to think again. > >>> > >>> ******************************** > >>> Please remove this footer before replying. > >>> > >>> OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: > >>> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > >>> > >>> CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > >>> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > >> > >> ******************************** > >> Please remove this footer before replying. > >> > >> OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: > >> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > >> > >> CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > >> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > > > > ******************************** > > Please remove this footer before replying. > > > > OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: > > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > > > > CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > > ******************************** > Please remove this footer before replying. > > OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > > CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > ******************************** Please remove this footer before replying. 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