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I would certainly support this change - it would bring the relevant period descriptors in line (chronologically) with the recent discoveries which Francis mentions. Rob Hosfield -------- Dr Robert Hosfield Senior Lecturer in Palaeolithic Archaeology Dept. of Archaeology (Room 18) School of Archaeology, Geography and Environmental Science (SAGES) University of Reading Reading RG6 6AB (NB Postcode for SatNavs: RG6 6UR) +44 (0)118 378 7632 (Office Telephone) +44 (0) 118 931 0279 (Fax) 07940 815756 (Mobile) ** New Reading Archaeology UG degree: Museum Studies & Archaeology (http://www.reading.ac.uk/archaeology/ug/arch-ug-ba-museum-studies-archaeolo gy.aspx) ** ** New Reading Archaeology PG degree: MSc Environmental Archaeology (http://www.reading.ac.uk/archaeology/pg-taught/arch-pgt-msc-environmental-a rchaeology.aspx) ** ** New Reading Archaeology PG degree: MA in the Archaeology of the Middle East (http://www.reading.ac.uk/archaeology/pg-taught/arch-pgt-ma-middle-east.aspx ) ** http://www.reading.ac.uk/archaeology/about/staff/r-hosfield.asp (University Webpage) http://www.facebook.com/ArchaeologyReading (Department Facebook) http://www.personal.rdg.ac.uk/~sgs04rh/ (Personal Webpage) http://www.personal.rdg.ac.uk/~sgs04rh/solentproject/solentindex.htm (Solent Palaeolithic Project) From: The Forum for Information Standards in Heritage (FISH) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Wenban-Smith F.F. Sent: 23 October 2014 14:10 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [FISH] Labels, Lithics and Landforms: Chronology - session 1.1 1.1 - An earlier start for the Palaeolithic This is a nice easy issue to start with, I hope. Several finds on the Norfolk coast in the last 10-15 years have identified clear evidence of very early hominin occupation in Britain, dated to c. 800,000 years BP [Before Present] at Happisburgh and 700,000 years BP at Pakefield. However, the current English Heritage Period List [version 16, September 2014], downloadable from <http://fishforum.weebly.com/download-fish-terminology.html> http://fishforum.weebly.com/download-fish-terminology.html , with the prehistoric parts extracted here (Att 1), still specifies a start date of -500,000. It is therefore recommended to amend this to something more suitable. On present knowledge, a date such as -850,000 would be early enough to cover the earliest possible start date for a British Palaeolithic as currently known. Please express support for this, or make any other suggestions/points. Homepage: <http://www.soton.ac.uk/~ffws/New_ffws/index.html> www.soton.ac.uk/~ffws/New_ffws/index.html Francis Wenban-Smith (Dr) Department of Archaeology (CAHOR - Centre for Applied Human Origins Research) University of Southampton (Avenue Campus) Southampton, Hants SO17 1BF 02380-596 864 (direct) 07771-623 096 (mobile) From: Campbell, Gill [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 23 October 2014 14:05 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Labels, Lithics and Landforms: Chronology- session 1 - Welcome Dear Colleagues Welcome to the first session of the Labels, Lithics and Landforms e-conference on chronology Lead Discussant - Francis Wenban-Smith Facilitator: Gill Campbell In this session we will focus on the chronological framework of the Palaeolithic and Mesolithic with a view to updating definitions and the FISH period list which is available for reference from here: http://fishforum.weebly.com/download-fish-terminology.html While not wishing to limit our discussions which we hope will be wide ranging, the topics which we hope to cover are: 1. An earlier start for the Palaeolithic. 2. Resolving the Early, Lower and Middle Palaeolithic, and sub-divisions. 3. Upper Palaeolithic - divide or not. 4. The Mesolithic - how to deal with overlap with final Upper Palaeolithic. 5. Having a separate list of terms and date-ranges for geological MI (Marine Isotope) Stages and glacial/interglacial episodes in the UK. 6. Reconsidering the distinction, and where to place the boundary, between Early Prehistoric and Later Prehistoric. I will now hand over to Francis to begin our deliberations. Gill Gill Campbell Head of Environmental Studies English Heritage T: 02392 856780 English Heritage Science Network Convenor <http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/> www.english-heritage.org.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of English Heritage unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system and notify the sender immediately. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it. Any information sent to English Heritage may become publicly available. Portico: your gateway to information on sites in the National Heritage Collection; have a look and tell us what you think. http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/professional/archives-and-collections/por tico/