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Yeah, maybe more of an art than a science. Appropriate since we're talking about macs.. Ian W, how does one get access to the SFE list of which you speak? Regards Mike Parry Study Needs Assessor/AT Trainer On 4 September 2014 18:39, Peter Hill <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi > > " > if a student has to use a Mac to access course-related software, then > the course is Mac based". > > I just had a response from a course leader saying that the student would > have to use at least one program that is solely Mac and would also use an > acoustics package which is only available via a Windows machine. So - the > above definition does not work. All good fun!! > > Regards > > Peter > ------------------ > > > > On 04/09/2014 15:07, Michael Parry wrote: > > certainly creative, Claire : ) > > I thought Robin's definition was pretty good: > > " > if a student has to use a Mac to access course-related software, then > the course is Mac based". > > I think these days that probably just means they use Logic (music > production) or Final Cut (video production). > > As for 'has to', that's harder. What if there is just one optional > module where they use either of those programs? For me, that's not > 'mac-based'. > > I usually email the course leader with a definition of 'mac-based' (as > above, perhaps with a bit more detail) and ask them literally for a 'yes' > or 'no' response. It seems to work. I haven't had any 'what on earth do you > mean?' responses yet. > > Or, if the Art Dept is completely deserted over the summer (often is), > put the onus on the student to get a response from the course leader. That > ALWAYS works. > > NB - I did an MA in Mulitmedia Production at John Moores Uni, which most > definately IS mac-based. I passed the course using a PC. Not with flying > colours, mind, but that was nothing to do with the platform .. > > Regards > > Mike Parry > Study Needs Assessor/AT Trainer > > > On 4 September 2014 14:12, John Conway <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> I'm a little surprised that there isn't a list, or rather that one can't >> be compiled, to identify courses which are genuinely MAC -based given the >> cost implications to the tax payer and the pressures for life-style choice >> of a Mac. >> >> With regards, >> >> John >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On 4 Sep 2014, at 13:42, "Peter Hill" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > >> > Hi >> > >> > Thanks for the replies on this issue - which, I guess, remains a vexed >> one. >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Peter >> > --------- >> > >> >> On 04/09/2014 12:40, Claire Salter wrote: >> >> I've said it before, but I need to say again. I love the clarity and >> creativity of your responses. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> Claire Salter >> >> >> >>> On 4 Sep 2014, at 11:17, "Penny Georgiou" < >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hello Peter, >> >>> >> >>> We need to formulate our question in a way that is consistent with >> DSA remit >> >>> and so is viable for SFE, as well as Course Tutors to construct a >> >>> well-reasoned opinion. >> >>> >> >>> Something like: Would a student be disadvantaged by virtue of their >> >>> disability if they did not have access to a MAC or particular >> specification >> >>> of PC (in some cases)? >> >>> >> >>> I have obtained a change of position from SFE for a student who was >> on a MAC >> >>> based course, and where the tutor's position was not crisp enough to >> enable >> >>> SFE to justify funding for the MAC. >> >>> >> >>> The point has been that if the teaching assumed in terms of a MAC >> based >> >>> context, a student would have to be translating instructions between >> MAC and >> >>> PC in order to keep pace with their peers. This is not reasonable. >> MAC and >> >>> PC may be, in principle, interchangeable for 'techies', but this is >> not the >> >>> case for most of the students that we work with, often by virtue of >> their >> >>> condition - any of the conditions affecting cognitive elements >> (memory, >> >>> attention, processing speed, etc etc) would imply delays in >> processing and >> >>> translating information between differing contexts. The physical >> conditions >> >>> where physical fatigue is an issue would also have implications, >> where the >> >>> student is not a MAC/PC friendly user, the effort would have >> cumulative >> >>> effects of delay on someone who is contending with various other >> logistical >> >>> obstacles as well, by virtue of their condition. >> >>> >> >>> Kind regards, >> >>> >> >>> Penny >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. >> >>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robin Hodges >> >>> Sent: 04 September 2014 11:02 >> >>> To: [log in to unmask] >> >>> Subject: Re: Mac-based courses >> >>> >> >>> Hi Peter, >> >>> >> >>> This is my problem with this policy - SFE have *never defined* what a >> >>> 'solely Mac based course' actually is, and in the sense of producing >> written >> >>> coursework, there is no such thing. >> >>> It seems to be left to interpretation. My personal interpretation is >> that >> >> if >> >>> a student has to use a Mac to access course-related software, then the >> >>> course is Mac based. >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> >> >>> Robin Hodges >> >>> DSA Assessor >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. >> >>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Hill >> >>> Sent: 04 September 2014 08:45 >> >>> To: [log in to unmask] >> >>> Subject: Mac-based courses >> >>> >> >>> Hi >> >>> >> >>> Can someone point me towards an SFE definition of a Mac-based course? >> >>> Responses by course leaders about this can be a little woolly. >> >>> >> >>> Any advice welcomed. >> >>> >> >>> Regards >> >>> >> >>> Peter >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Peter Hill >> >>> >> >>> Needs Assessor >> >>> >> >>> [log in to unmask] >> >>> Tel: 01299 878747 >> >>> Mobile: 07751 792711 >> > >> > -- >> > Peter Hill >> > >> > Needs Assessor >> > >> > [log in to unmask] >> > Tel: 01299 878747 >> > Mobile: 07751 792711 >> > > > -- > Peter Hill > > Needs Assessor > [log in to unmask] > Tel: 01299 878747 > Mobile: 07751 792711 > >