Thanks everyone so far. The main question relates to the return, ie. consent is assumed for the delivery but does that extend to a collection at a later date. The specific circumstance is that the retailer sent the item but before it arrived the customer called to change their mind so the retailer sent the other one as well. Hence the customer now has two and isn't in any hurry to return the first one. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Holden" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [data-protection] Passing customer details on to a courier I agree. As a consumer using an online retail site I expect, by the nature of the transaction that the retail site will have to disclose certain information about me, including to a courier service, in order for the goods to be delivered/returned As a regular online purchaser :) I receive notification/documentation informing me that an appointed courier will deliver/collect my items. It's a natural expectation of the customer. Jane -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Baines, Jonathan Sent: 17 September 2014 10:08 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] Passing customer details on to a courier Isn't this a situation where the processing is necessary for the performance of a contract to which the data subject is a party? Or am I missing something? Jon Baines, Chairman www.nadpo.org.uk -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Ticher Sent: 17 September 2014 09:26 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] Passing customer details on to a courier This is harder (to me, at least) than it looks, because it's not something I would bother thinking about normally. Imagine you told the customer that you are about to send them a consignment but you can't tell the courier their name and address 'because of data protection'. That suggests to me that in giving the name and address you almost certainly have the customer's consent (thus meeting Schedule 2) provided you have informed them that the delivery will be made by courier (Principle 1 Transparency and Principle 2). Your data is presumably relevant and accurate (Principles 3 and 4), and if the goods are secure, the data is secure (Principle 7). I can't see an issue with Principles 5, 6 or 8. An address on its own, however, is not personal data. So if you are worried you could always omit any personal details (but might end up delivering to the wrong person). I refuse to discuss whether the courier is a Data Controller or Data Processor, but I suspect the former. 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