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The first clause in your last sentence is just plain shocking, Lawrence.

                                              "*Vraiment*,
Poetry can be so many more things
Than what people mostly believe it is."

                --Anselm Hollo

Halvard Johnson
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On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Noted! I heard an outtake from Robin Williams at the comedy store in
> London. Anyway astronauts in the space station as WWIII starts. One says
> something like "Did you hear a noise?"   I don't normally laugh at RW but
> the timing was just right then
>
> L
>
>
> On 17 August 2014 03:12, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Perhaps, L, it is only no postings from Raynes Park which will indicate
> > eradication of the British Isles. With Pat on hols this week, I'd watch
> out
> > if I were you.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > On 15/08/2014, at 2:05 AM, Lawrence Upton wrote:
> >
> > > It has been claimed, and denied, that the failure of BBC's Radio 4
> Today
> > > programme (6 a.m. - 9 a.m.) to broadcast would be taken as an alert
> > signal
> > > for UK's Trident submarines, suggesting that UK had been "taken out"
> > >
> > > I wonder if the Captain of HMS Teapot ever worries that postings on
> > > PoetryEtc have dropped: "not much poetry coming out of the UK - little
> > bit
> > > from Raynes Park and that's it - I do hope they're all right. Keep an
> eye
> > > on it Number One. If there's nothing next time we check, maybe we ought
> > to
> > > consider lobbing one towards Moscow"
> > >
> > > (HMS Teapot is cartoonist Steve Bell's name for a UK expeditionary
> > > force.Teapot it was which went to the Falklands)
> > >
> > > L
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 13 August 2014 11:33, Max Richards <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> poetryetc at this time of year is always quiet, I seem to remember -
> > >>
> > >> holiday and travel time for the northern hemisphere...
> > >>
> > >> Otherwise I expect by now someone would have wondered aloud whether
> > >> pouchily
> > >> and
> > >> springlessly
> > >> were maybe uncomfortable coinages from Bill.
> > >> But let them pass...
> > >>
> > >> I have some difficulty with eye sockets changing
> > >> probably because for me a socket is made of bone.
> > >> The turn at line nine is welcome, yet -
> > >> eight lines of 'concreteness' seem to me to call for a turn
> > >> that does not lapse into a big abstraction -
> > >> Hopkins poems have similar problems shifting from the experiential to
> > the
> > >> abstract.
> > >> Is there a way for 'beauty' to be held over until we can sense what
> > might
> > >> bring it to mind.
> > >> Lines ten to twelve don't quite do this.
> > >> Choughs? fussing and fossicking?
> > >> sinister birds with sharp beaks.
> > >> For you, Bill, but not for me.
> > >>
> > >> (Earlier today in the park I noticed a dead magpie - handsome but very
> > >> dead.)
> > >>
> > >> Oddly I am about to post a verse snap with 'beauty' in it.
> > >>
> > >> Max in Melbourne
> > >>
> > >> On 13 Aug 2014, at 8:04 am, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Compensations
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheeks hang baggy.
> > >>> Face spills onto pillow.
> > >>> Eye sockets fold and droop
> > >>> forgetting former close bone cling
> > >>>
> > >>> Skin sags pouchily from shoulder
> > >>> bone, as if from Brahman cow.
> > >>> Muscles think before flexing,
> > >>> withdraw springlessly.
> > >>>
> > >>> Yet beauty still bounces,
> > >>> choughs fuss and fossick.
> > >>> And tonight - so they say,
> > >>> The moon will be Super.
> > >>>
> > >>> bw
> > >>
> > >
> >
>