The first clause in your last sentence is just plain shocking, Lawrence. "*Vraiment*, Poetry can be so many more things Than what people mostly believe it is." --Anselm Hollo Halvard Johnson ================ [log in to unmask] <http://www.amazon.com/Remains-To-Be-Seen-Works/dp/1933132787/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367618323&sr=8-1&keywords=Halvard+Johnson> New from Gradient Books <http://gradientbooks.blogspot.fi/2014/06/halvard-johnson-songs-my-mother-taught.html>: *Songs My Mother Taught Me* Poems by Others . . . <http://anotherpoetrysite.blogspot.com/> On Barcelona <http://onbarcelona.blogspot.com/> (submissions sought; email to my address above) Truck <http://halvard-johnson.blogspot.com/> (no submissions; new drivers/editors monthly) Entropy and Me <http://entropyandme.blogspot.com/> Images without Words <http://imageswithoutwords.blogspot.com/> Hal & Lynda's homepage <http://sites.google.com/site/halvardjohnson/Home> Hamilton Stone Editions <http://www.hamiltonstone.org/> Hamilton Stone Review <http://www.hamiltonstone.org/hsr.html> <http://www.hamiltonstone.org/>Vida Loca Books <https://sites.google.com/site/vidalocabooks/> *Songs My Mother Taught Me <http://gradientbooks.blogspot.fi/2014/06/halvard-johnson-songs-my-mother-taught.html>, Remains To Be Seen <http://www.spuytenduyvil.net/remains-to-be-seen.html>, *Sonnets from the Basque & Other Poems <https://sites.google.com/site/vidalocabooks/> *, *Mainly Black <https://sites.google.com/site/vidalocabooks/>, *Obras Públicas <https://sites.google.com/site/vidalocabooks/>; **The Perfection of Mozart's Third Eye and Other Sonnets <http://www.scribd.com/doc/27039868/Halvard-Johnson-THE-PERFECTION-OF-MOZART-S-THIRD-EYE-Other-Sonnets>; **Organ Harvest with Entrance of Clones <http://www.amazon.com/Harvest-Entrance-Clones-Halvard-Johnson/dp/0965404390/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1283182804&sr=8-1>; **Tango Bouquet <https://sites.google.com/site/vidalocabooks/>; **Theory of Harmony <https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://xpressed.wippiespace.com/fall04/theory1.pdf>; **Rapsodie espagnole <https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://xpressed.wippiespace.com/rapsodi.pdf>; **Guide to the Tokyo Subway <http://www.amazon.com/Guide-Tokyo-Subway-Other-Poems/dp/0971487316/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1283183153&sr=1-3>; **The Sonnet Project <https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://xpressed.wippiespace.com/hsonnet.pdf>; **G(e)nome <http://xpressed.wippiespace.com/fall03/genome.pdf>; **Winter Journey <http://capa.conncoll.edu/johnson.winter.html>; **Eclipse <http://capa.conncoll.edu/johnson.eclipse.html>; **The Dance of the Red Swan <http://capa.conncoll.edu/johnson.dance.html>; **Transparencies & Projections <http://capa.conncoll.edu/johnson.transp.html>* On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Noted! I heard an outtake from Robin Williams at the comedy store in > London. Anyway astronauts in the space station as WWIII starts. One says > something like "Did you hear a noise?" I don't normally laugh at RW but > the timing was just right then > > L > > > On 17 August 2014 03:12, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Perhaps, L, it is only no postings from Raynes Park which will indicate > > eradication of the British Isles. With Pat on hols this week, I'd watch > out > > if I were you. > > > > Bill > > > > > > On 15/08/2014, at 2:05 AM, Lawrence Upton wrote: > > > > > It has been claimed, and denied, that the failure of BBC's Radio 4 > Today > > > programme (6 a.m. - 9 a.m.) to broadcast would be taken as an alert > > signal > > > for UK's Trident submarines, suggesting that UK had been "taken out" > > > > > > I wonder if the Captain of HMS Teapot ever worries that postings on > > > PoetryEtc have dropped: "not much poetry coming out of the UK - little > > bit > > > from Raynes Park and that's it - I do hope they're all right. Keep an > eye > > > on it Number One. If there's nothing next time we check, maybe we ought > > to > > > consider lobbing one towards Moscow" > > > > > > (HMS Teapot is cartoonist Steve Bell's name for a UK expeditionary > > > force.Teapot it was which went to the Falklands) > > > > > > L > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 13 August 2014 11:33, Max Richards <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > >> poetryetc at this time of year is always quiet, I seem to remember - > > >> > > >> holiday and travel time for the northern hemisphere... > > >> > > >> Otherwise I expect by now someone would have wondered aloud whether > > >> pouchily > > >> and > > >> springlessly > > >> were maybe uncomfortable coinages from Bill. > > >> But let them pass... > > >> > > >> I have some difficulty with eye sockets changing > > >> probably because for me a socket is made of bone. > > >> The turn at line nine is welcome, yet - > > >> eight lines of 'concreteness' seem to me to call for a turn > > >> that does not lapse into a big abstraction - > > >> Hopkins poems have similar problems shifting from the experiential to > > the > > >> abstract. > > >> Is there a way for 'beauty' to be held over until we can sense what > > might > > >> bring it to mind. > > >> Lines ten to twelve don't quite do this. > > >> Choughs? fussing and fossicking? > > >> sinister birds with sharp beaks. > > >> For you, Bill, but not for me. > > >> > > >> (Earlier today in the park I noticed a dead magpie - handsome but very > > >> dead.) > > >> > > >> Oddly I am about to post a verse snap with 'beauty' in it. > > >> > > >> Max in Melbourne > > >> > > >> On 13 Aug 2014, at 8:04 am, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > >> > > >>> Compensations > > >>> > > >>> Cheeks hang baggy. > > >>> Face spills onto pillow. > > >>> Eye sockets fold and droop > > >>> forgetting former close bone cling > > >>> > > >>> Skin sags pouchily from shoulder > > >>> bone, as if from Brahman cow. > > >>> Muscles think before flexing, > > >>> withdraw springlessly. > > >>> > > >>> Yet beauty still bounces, > > >>> choughs fuss and fossick. > > >>> And tonight - so they say, > > >>> The moon will be Super. > > >>> > > >>> bw > > >> > > > > > >