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I’d echo Pat here – why do you need more data and what do you intend to do with it? You just have to balance your need for data against ease of use, this was a tension that was present throughout 3+ years of UKOER. FWIW, I’d also agree that Pat’s work with Oxford on tracking with GA was best-of-breed. David - David Kernohan Jisc From: Open Educational Resources [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley Sent: 03 August 2014 23:15 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: use-reuse-remixing of stuff in OER repositories Lots of thoughts "Whilst the central tenant of OER is the ability to reuse, share and remix and redistribute" I'd say the license is central, which means you may have the ability to R "it often seems to be a problem to show that this really does happen" Depends really on whose problem that is? And why they think it is a problem? I think some people share because it is good, not because you need to know it happens. "This seems to be because repositories (i.e. places where OER can be found and uploaded) often don’t have better data tracking than google analytics" You can do a lot of tracking with google analytics events and so on. We did a lot with the Oxford phase 3 project Writers Inspire and with WW1C. Most page actions (download, watch, copy, cite) had tracking actions placed on them to see how reuse differed. From what I have seen from the coursera dashboard, usage information isn't any better than google analytics (I would say worse) and you can build your own GA tracking, you can't do that on a hosted platform you've no control over. As for logging in, wikipedia, which is probably "just about" on OER repository does well without logging in - and that seems to generate data. I think logging in stops it being an OER repository (if you need to log in to access), I think to log in to get extra features would be a different issue, On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Orr, Dominic <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: A quandary for OER repositories Dear colleagues As I have mentioned previously, we are looking at how OER could perhaps break-through into the mainstream. In this sense, we are particularly looking at OER from the policy-maker’s perspective. Whilst the central tenant of OER is the ability to reuse, share and remix and redistribute, it often seems to be a problem to show that this really does happen (apart from small, ad-hoc user surveys). This seems to be because repositories (i.e. places where OER can be found and uploaded) often don’t have better data tracking than google analytics. I overheard a conversation a while back with Mike Smith in the US, where he was saying that MOOCs have one up on OER in this respect. On the other hand, on the site from Javiera Atenas - http://oerqualityproject.wordpress.com/2012/10/22/directory-of-oer-repositories/ - I see the debate about whether a repository can be an OER repository, if it requires users to register (regarding: http://i2geo.net/). To me, this would seem to be necessary, however, in order to have better data (exhaust) from users’ sharing and uploading. What is your opinion on this challenge of squaring the circle? Appreciate your thoughts! Dominic