Hi All
Agree with all of Glyn’s comments as I was the other researcher on the project she refers to- there was a previous application I put in as lead researcher which also was rejected, and the delays added years to the project.
Kind regards
Neil
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From: Intellectual Disability Research UK mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Glynis Murphy
Sent: 29 July 2014 14:36
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Subject: Re: Ethics again
One of my projects was the reason the Appeals procedure was set up – we got turned down by two different ethics committees and at the time Dept of Health said that since we hadn't got thru ethics they would remove funding. I said no you jolly well won't! Where is the Appeals procedure? So we were allowed to go to a third for SOTSEC-ID – and we got thru the third.
Meanwhile they set up an Appeals procedure.
I also had experience in Lancaster of an ethics com turning down a student's project for stupid reasons, so I complained and we were allowed to go to a second where we got thru no problem.
My view is that they are often very blooody ignorant about ID, rarely have a cline psych on them, and make very arbitrary and inconsistent decisions.
Im not saying we shouldn't go thru ethics procedures but I do think they ought to work properly!
glyn
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:44:45 +0000
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Subject: Ethics again
Have just had an unfavourable response to student NHS ethics application, there were some valid issues that might have been amendments but the core concerns showed significant misunderstanding of the ID population. Will resubmit but was wondering if anyone has any experience of using the REC appeals process?
Dave
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