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Justin

Sorry, but what is PBSS?

But, from your description, I would surmise that in this instance, a third party providing services to a public authority, unless the contract states otherwise, liability is with the provider.  That said, the ease of finding insurance would be dependent on the organizations involved, scale of operation, and the services provided.  It may also be wise to consider personal (professional) liability for staff involved (again, dependent on the type an scale of services being provided).

I had some experience attempting to source public liability insurance for a small voluntary group developing a BMX track.....basically no chance and very expensive if you can find it.  The track is classed as a public amenity and was built on public land, owned the council.  It was a very bruising experience....!  In practice that sort of PLI is better and much cheaper and more economic lumped in with the council's own liability insurance (which is huge and designed to cover these sorts of risk), which is the way we started the project and, after a lot of arguing and un-ethical behaviour on the part of the council, is the way it ended up.

Don't know what the situation is with regard to services not requiring use of a public asset, or any physical asset for that matter, but there will be specialist insurance brokers who can handle that kind of situation.

Cheers

John Meudell
C.Eng, MIMechE

(Hi, Justin....you're in Cardiff now?.....which is why I don't met you on the High Street here anymore!)







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From: Cycling and Society Research Group discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Justin Spinney
Sent: 12 August 2014 09:26
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Subject: PBSS - Responsibility for Public Liability Insurance

Hi all

I have a query regarding public liability insurance for PBSS in London and other cities. As most if not all of these schemes are run by third party providers on behalf of the relevant authority, whose responsibility is it to pay for the (presumably mandatory) public liability insurance - the service provider or the local authority? And does anyone know what kinds of sums we are talking?

Any information from those in the know on how different authorities have dealt with this issue would be very welcome. If you want to email me off-list I’m at [log in to unmask]

Thanks,

Justin

Dr Justin Spinney
School of Planning and Geography
Cardiff University