Interesting discussion. Am happy to have been copied in as well.
Felix Achana
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I would like to be copied in as well. I am surprised that Gaza is considered to have been "stable" before June2014 despite the fact Gaza has been under siege and still under illegal occupation since 1967!
i would also like this copied in to me as i suspect would others, though id also like the option to avoid Mr granville's emails, if that were possible
thanks
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I would like to have this discussion copied to me please.
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From: Murray Pollock <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:00
Subject: Re: Israeli public opinion
This is a public mailing list. Is it entirely necessary to copy everyone into your conversation? I have no problem with the initial question, but perhaps interested parties could respond to you and you respond to them without cc'ing me in...
I should have used the term 'non-Jew'. (I believe the overwhelming majority are Palestinian.) My point is that non-Jews seem not to have been surveyed at all, yet the results have been used as representative of Israeli opinion.
Depending on whether you use 1948, 1967 or 2010 borders, the proportion of non-Jews can be up to or even over 50% I believe (But as I said before, I may be wrong - that was why I asked the question.)
JOHN BIBBY
where are the non-Jewish respondents?
On 6 August 2014 11:09, Michael Baxter <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
What is the problem? I regularly analyse surveys in the UK where respondents are analysed by ethnicity and sex. In both cases, the respondents are classified in accordance with their own self-description. The same is done in the USA. I assume that Israeli surveys also work like that.
Michael Baxter
Does your answer imply that Israeli IDs are mentioning ethnical/religious information about Israeli citizens? This (besides the moral ones) raises a number of technical issues: what about secular Arabs/Jews? About children from mixed couples? How do they classify a Christian “ethnical (BTW, what does that mean?) Jew”?
The very meaning of a "Jewish sample" versus a "non-Jewish" one looks quite suspicious and the source of huge selection bias!
M. Hallin.
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