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I concur with all sentiments included in the emails below from Karen and Diane. The single org that could certainly expand our horizons but there is another institution with the potential to impact on the education of OH practitioners. I am involved with a number of colleagues from the FOM in preliminary discussions regarding establishing a National School of Occupational Health. Some of you will know of Dr Richard Heron (current president ), Dr Olivia Carlton (immediate past president) and Christina Butterworth President of the AOHNP and Deputy Chair of the Council for Work and Health. Other interested parties were also involved including Health Education England and a Hugh Robertson, senior policy officer for prevention and rehabilitation at the TUC. Interestingly the FOM have also appointed a physiotherapist, Leonie Dawson, on an interesting one year contract termed something like ³non-medical medical fellow². That is a very telling appointment as it gives a powerful message that this will not just be an institution which will be a driver within medical education but will also influence the education of other health care professionals. The first intake of doctors will take place this year. OH practitioners from other specialties, including nursing, have been involved in the recruitment process for these trainees . The National School initially as a validating body for OH education for medical colleagues. In the long term it will be expanded to influence the education of other OH professionals including nurses. I envisage that NMC (SCPHN) validation will become of lesser importance as public protection will be maintained by the requirement to be registered on the first part of the NMC register. Its working title was changed from the National School of Occupational Medicine to the National School of Occupational Health reflecting the change in emphasis from medical education. Its remit will have an influence on the education of, and shared learning with other occupational health care professionals rather than shared learning outcomes with other SCPHNs as is the current situation. I feel very positive about this. Dr Olivia Carlton has chaired our meetings and she has taken a very inclusive approach. As Karen observes, not including the regulation of HC professionals from the law commission in the Queens speech has implications as could have resulted in the SCPHN register being ³disbanded². However, the National School will be influential in an inclusive multi-disciplianry approach to OH education. Anne Anne Harriss Course Director LONDON SOUTH BANK UNIVERSITY On 19/07/2014 07:58, "Karen Coomer" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > HI Dianne > I think it would be brilliant if we could manage part 3 ourselves under the > umbrella of a new org, itıs a shame the Regulation of Health Care > Professionals from the law commission was not included in the Queens speech > because that would have given us more scope to do this. If we could do this > training could be much more streamlined to the speciality of OH, be > multidisciplinary with other OH specialities (not H/Vıs etc) and cater for the > needs of all entry level nurses eg, there could be a basic introductory course > for OH nurses new to OH for instance and advanced OH courses for those OHNıs > with experience, similar to courses I have been to in Finland, as well as a > foundation degree/MSc course. If I was starting again I would also have liked > to have picked my own course on a modular basis so that is not necessarily > doing a course at one university but picking elements from different > university courses or indeed from different validated training providers, I > have come to this conclusion through sitting in many boring non relevant > lectures but felt stuckı to the course I was doing at the time and then > having to top up my skills at more cost later on. > > > > In my time I have formally mentored 5 nurses through their degrees and > informally helped more but then was told I needed to do the practice teacher > training (I also have a 730), I canıt do this as a self-employed person so I > agree with you it makes sense to have this as part of a strategy for > education. > > > > Now on with the day. > > Karen > > > > > From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf > Of Diane Romano-Woodward > Sent: 19 July 2014 04:14 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Practice Teacher > > > Too hot to sleep.. so here goes... > > I wonder if ...there is in the future a single organisation for occupational > health and...a faculty of Occupational Heath Nursing develops within.. we will > be able to regulate our own training and the NMC will not need to be involved > in validating the training. The requirement for registered practice teacher > might be removed...Like Rita I have a teaching qualification (C&C 730 Further > Education Teacher Certificate) but I am not in a position to train as a > practice teacher. In my wildest dreams it might even be possible to have some > salaried full time or part time "practice teachers" to facilitate learning... > > > Diane Romano-Woodward > > RN RSCPHN-OH BSc M Med Sc.(Occ Health) > > Sunny Blue Sky Limited > > Company Number 06865212 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************** Please remove this footer before replying. > OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > > CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH > ******************************** Please remove this footer before replying. > > OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html > > CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH ******************************** Please remove this footer before replying. 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