Some random observations on this interesting thread.
1. By 1100 there are certainly full missals with the ordinary and proper texts for the mass, looking for all the world like a Tridentine Missale Romanum: just a couple examples easily viewable on line: BnF 11590 and 12054.
2. I have never seen a ‘breviary’ from the 12th century: i.e. that contained the psalter as well as proper texts for the office (the modern definition). Full antiphonaries abound from this period: i.e. all the Office texts except the psalter. My impression is that even late medieval breviaries, which were much smaller than 11th or 12th c. volumes, contain only a few verses of the psalms to be said. All that reinforces a scholarly consensus that the psalms were usually recited from memory.
3. The thread has gotten me to think about when and why liturgical books get their titles. The title “antiphonary” is fairly descriptive: usually the proper office texts; but I have seen examples of antiphonaries that contain full Mass propers, sacramentary material and all sorts of devotional texts: processional material, litanies etc.
The term ‘breviary’ seems very problematical: it seems to mean nothing more than some sort of collection of texts which are abbreviated from their usual fullness. Lives of the saints, homilies, works of one or several authors all carry this title. They may well contain musical notation as well.
As for all these titles: most manuscripts I have looked at do not have a title: often the first pages of a manuscript are missing for obvious reasons of vulnerability, but even when they are there, MSS usually begin in medias res, with a liturgical calendar, for instance. .So I would guess that titles are attached to manuscripts when they are catalogued. We do have, of course, several 12th century (and later) monastic lists of their holdings. But most catalogues are modern; my guess would be that many medieval mss. get their titles just because some bibliographer at some point looked at the ms. and decided what to call it. This is why it is often so exciting to leaf through mss., since they often contain material that is wholly unexpected.
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These are wonderful suggestions. Please keep suggesting!
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Marijim Thoene <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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Hi Cecilia,
They might have used a portative pipe organ. Granted they are tricky to carry on horseback, but they might have been available to the crusaders who stayed at Bodrun, Turkey in the Crusader castle of St. Peter.
Fascinating topic!
Marijim
On Jun 30, 2014, at 7:44 PM, M. C. Gaposchkin wrote:
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Hello you smart people,
I'm hoping some of you can help me think this through. The question is: what would a priest/military cleric needed to have bring with him on crusade to be able to fulfill their function. The sources speak of mass (usually in tents) frequently. And they talk about people confessing and taking communion with some frequency. White stoles are often evoked. (Are stoles particularly relevant?) Two non-eye witness sources talk about altars (alteria). I dont' have a single mention of books. Lots of mentions of litanies, psalms, and prayers.
OK. So, what would have accompanied the crusading clergy east in 1099, 1147, 1189, and so forth? I presume at minimum they would need portable altars, with relics (yes?) What else? Apparently some of their vestments? But what else? chalice? could one make hosts on the spot? Presumably at least a missal, but maybe no other books? Tell me tell me.
cecilia (who is in Maine with her family and without her books, trying to write and revise)
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I suspect that the many propers, which would vary from diocese to diocese, might not have been entirely remembered.
We must keep in mind the possibility that the priest would have memorized the basic forms for baptism & penance, as well as the common of the mass.
I've been investigating emergency baptisms, & remarkably little was needed in a case of necessity: water, form of words & intention. I suspect a mass before battle might have been similarly bare bones.
