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 "For discussion of aspects of academic research & teaching within Media, Communication, Film, Television & Cultural Studies. Designed to support HE lecturers & researchers within the Media Communication and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) Members' interests include practice & theory."

There has been a good deal of "academic research" published in this area, most notably by the Glasgow Media Group. In fact I'm finding the whole discussion very interesting, not least because I have a PhD student looking at precisely this topic and its mediation - he's a subscriber here and is no doubt (alongside many people contributing to this edifying discussion) finding it supportive "within the MeCCSA Members' interests"). That the you're now proposing to shut down the discussion is itself research-worthy - indeed I often think there to be discussions on this list that I find of no help whatsoever to my research, practice and theory, but it smacks of the most troubling censorship that this topic in particular is met with such a response.

I for one would be pleased for you to withdraw this threat to academic freedom made against colleagues, and perhaps those who don't want to read the messages simply don't read them, press the delete button, change their email filters or do as I did when I didn't want to receive countless emails on a topic I thought not worthy of my attention - move to the digest.

Best,
Lee

Dr Lee Salter
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Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2014 14:59:56 +0000
From:    Gholam Khiabany <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Message from JiscMail Helpline regarding recent discussions

So much for the openness of social media.....
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Dear Subscribers

The MECCSA list is for "For discussion of aspects of academic research & teaching within Media, Communication, Film, Television & Cultural Studies. Designed to support HE lecturers & researchers within the Media Communication and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) Members' interests include practice & theory."

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Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:01:01 +0000
From:    Mica Nava <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza

See also Jews for Justice for Palestinians (JfJfP http://jfjfp.com/) which is UK based and has an excellent website.

Mica Nava

Emeritus Professor of Cultural Studies
University of East London
London E16 2RD, UK
http://www.uel.ac.uk/research/profiles/adi/micanava/





From: Cahal McLaughlin <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Reply-To: Cahal McLaughlin <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Date: Wednesday, 30 July 2014 15:54
To: MeCCSA <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza

I agree, Julian.

I have seen little empathy or understanding on the part of this contributor to the situation of the Palestinian civilians under genocidal attack (another hospital bombed today) by her government, along with the media's (our area of study) consistent mis-representation (with several excellent exceptions, even within the BBC).

I too will no longer reply to her diversionary and racist comments (I have explained elsewhere why I consider her position to be racist).

On a more positive note, for those not already aware of it, there is a NY based organisation, called Jewish Voice for Peace, which is countering such information, using films, testimonies and articles - http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/ - highly recommended.

Best wishes,

Cahal

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On 30 Jul 2014, at 15:01, Julian Petley wrote:

Dear all,

Stuart is quite correct, and participants in this debate have a perfect right to enquire exactly where Dr Bardach-Yalov is coming from, and to draw certain conclusions from what they discover. This is not in order to censor her or demean her, but simply in order to gauge whether it’s actually worth engaging with her. In my view, it’s not. As far as I’m concerned, the most interesting contributions to this debate have been those which have put the current situation into its long historical context, and which have also stressed its intense complexity. But what we are repeatedly getting from Dr Bardach-Yelov, and which is threatening to run a very valuable debate into a cul-de-sac, are the product of what appears to be a totally closed mind and an expression of exactly the same bunker mentality as that of the Israeli politicians that we encounter every day in the British media. I would suggest there is no more point in trying to engage such people in a sensible, rational debate than there is in trying to persuade the flat earth brigade that the planet is in fact round.  Dr Bardach-Yalov has managed to pull off the extremely difficult feat of making even the BBC coverage of Gaza look relatively ‘balanced’ by comparison with her entirely one-sided view of the situation, and I suspect that she has given us a glimpse of the kind of endless barrage which the BBC and ITN will be receiving from Israelis absolutely convinced that British broadcasters are  daily pumping out floods of anti-Israel and pro-Hamas propaganda. Anybody who criticises Israel’s actions, and especially when it comes to its relationship with the Palestinians, is liable to be deluged with the kind of stuff which Dr Bardach-Yelov is churning out – indeed, with far, far worse – but I must admit to being rather surprised at encountering it in this context.

Best, Julian.

Julian Petley
Professor of Screen Media,
School of Arts,
Brunel University,
Uxbridge,
UB8 2PJ





From: Media, Communications and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stuart Price
Sent: 30 July 2014 14:05
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza

Dear All

The concern shared by the majority of respondents is to understand the role assumed by Dr Bardach-Yalov, rather than to question her right to comment on events per se

Although individuals can act in more than one capacity, many of which combine and overlap (citizen, academic, parent, etc.), the unease felt by many on the list can be attributed to the conviction that other functions ('advisor', 'propagandist', etc.) tend to undermine the participant's credibility, at the point at which she describes anything beyond her immediate situation

This is not an argument about the corrosive effect of 'bias' or conviction (which as we know can be attributed to many individuals) but about the role of current or ex-state functionaries. A functionary can still act in another capacity - as a witness for example - and may produce some useful insights, but it is the ability of such a person to offer a balanced assessment of the larger context that is in doubt

Best wishes

Stuart Price (not the Stuart that wanted this debate to take place elsewhere)


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Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza
Dear Karl,

It seems appropriate to include the information that Elina states on her own Linked In page that she has acted as an advisor to Netanyahu. If that is a 'smear and slur', then I suggest you ask Elina why she has slurred herself.

I am happy to say that I have gone on protest marches against the current genocide in Gaza. That, of course, should colour your and Elina's and others' interpretation of my contribution to this debate.

Best wishes,

Cahal

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On 30 Jul 2014, at 13:36, Spracklen, Karl wrote:


Hello all

While I tend to agree with the majority view here on the disgraceful actions of the Israeli government, I am disturbed by the way this is becoming a trial by smear and slur of Elina. Are we going to do some research on everyone who comments here so we can establish what they may have done in the past that makes them ‘less reliable’? This is becoming rather nasty rather quickly and we would all warn our students from making such ad hominem attacks.

Elina has a complete right to state her views and to defend herself in a civilized manner. Yes, I know Palestinians are being denied that by the Israeli government, but two wrongs do not make a right.

Karl Spracklen
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From: Media, Communications and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mohammed-Ali Abunajela
Sent: 30 July 2014 13:27
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Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza

Probably it was Elina who advised her Prime Minster, Benjamin Netanyahu, to establish this programme:

Israel Offers Students Grants If They Tweet Favorable Propaganda. See this:

In a campaign to improve its image abroad, the Israeli government plans to provide scholarships to hundreds of students at its seven universities in exchange for their making pro-Israel Facebook posts and tweets to foreign audiences.
The students making the posts will not reveal online that they are funded by the Israeli government, according to correspondence about the plan revealed in the Haaretz newspaper.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office, which will oversee the programme, confirmed its launch and wrote that its aim was to “strengthen Israeli public diplomacy and make it fit the changes in the means of information consumption”.

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From: Cahal McLaughlin <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
To: Mohammed Ali <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza

Dear all,

Just to remind late joiners to the list, that Elina is named on her Linked-In page as an advisor to the Israeli prime minister.

Cahal


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On 30 Jul 2014, at 12:32, Mohammed Ali wrote:

Elina,

You can play the role of the victim as much as you want but won't be able to mislead us. You need to admit that Israel is occupying and looting Palestinian lands, destroying their homes, illegally blockading the Gaza Strip, unjustly put people in prison including children, targeting hospitals and disabled care homes, and unlawful implementing continuing and discriminate attacks. About 1300 civilians killed, 40% children, and thwarting any peace efforts and many other criminal acts. What do you expect? You are very lucky to have a shelter to hide but but Palestinians don't have one. For several times, UN schools used as shelters have been targeted - including one today killing more than 20 people. Please don't give us any 'moral' lessons and only blame your illegal terrorist government.

Mohammed-Ali
University of Bedfordshire.

On 30 Jul 2014, at 11:51, Elina Bardach-Yalov <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Milly, this is really nice of you to write for the whole world... Especially about hundreds of dead terrorists whom you call children... (And yes, I am aware of civilian casualties, which is very sad indeed).
And my point regarding rockets is - even if something does't kill you, it does irreversible psychological damage. Just think about it - you are writing me this post from some nice office and I am replying from a very unpleasant bomb shelter. And since we have sirens again, I am sorry, but you will have to continue this important discussion without me.

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Milly Williamson <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Well, imagine then what it must have felt like for the hundreds of children who were blown apart by Israeli bombs; imagine the hundreds and hundreds of dead adults; imagine the thousands of injured and maimed, with very little medical help; imagine the mothers who have had to hold their dead children; imagine fleeing to a UN school, because you have nowhere else to go, and still being blown apart by Israeli bombs.

Israel is finally losing its propaganda war. No one believes your lies any more, except you.


From: Media, Communications and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Elina Bardach-Yalov
Sent: 30 July 2014 11:18
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza


I just hope that you called my point of view a "Zionist provocation". It is really flattering, as I have never answered any of "anti-Zionist" posts or emails. This time I really decided that this very interesting and important community has to hear the other voice. The voice of someone, who jumped out of bed once again during the night because of some HAMAS fanatic, who decided to send another rocket to her home town.
PS From personal experience - the siren is much more frightening than a rocket. You keep hearing a siren for 45 seconds and it takes only a few seconds for a rocket to explode.

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Michael Chanan <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
The members of this list are to be congratulated for a discussion which, while different points of viewed were being aired, immediately rose to the Zionist provocation and transcended it before the perpetrator was outed.

Michael Chanan
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Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2014 16:02:13 +0100
From:    Cahal McLaughlin <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Message from JiscMail Helpline regarding recent discussions

Dear Lisa,

By which editorial process will you decide what should be said and by whom on this subject association's communication forum?

Are you preventing us from commenting on media coverage of the current massacre in Gaza by the Israeli government, supported by our own governments?

Are you suggesting that such a discussion is not possible on this list?

Best wishes,

Cahal

Cahal McLaughlin
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School of Creative Arts,
Queens University Belfast
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Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2014 17:29:15 +0200
From:    Ann Overbergh <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: <No subject given>

If any of you plan on continuing this discussion on another platform
outside MECCSA, please let me know as I'd like to stay involved. This
simple mailstring here could be such platform, however we'd be excluding
people who have not contributed and wish to keep following. This is not a
time to be silent; I'd be very interested in continuing to read different
views, arguments, info and literature.
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Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:35:51 +0300
From:    Elina Bardach-Yalov <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza

1. The death toll of civilians is unchecked, since HAMAS tends to define his terrorist as civilians.
2. Several major incidents - HAMAS fired rockets, but they landed in Gaza, caused death to Palestinian civilians (7 rockets landed in Gaza just yesterday)
And there are more, just don't have time now to write them all down.

Dr. Elina Bardach-Yalov
David Yellin College of Education

> On Jul 30, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Ann Overbergh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Elina, please explain yourself as we are talking about innocent people here, dead for no reason they had anything to do with.
> Are you suggesting that the figures quoted by Milly are wrong? How do they qualify as "pure propaganda"? These stats are all over the media: 1200 Palestinians, half of whom are women and children.
> Please also clarify why Levy is a lunatic?
> Thanks,
> Ann
>
>
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Elina Bardach-Yalov <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Milly, it's very nice of you to pass here pure propaganda, but as I said I have absolutely no intention to discuss the sources here. You are referring once again to yourself as "a world", which is a bit disturbing, but understandable. Regarding Levy, even his ex-wife, a very smart Palestinian girl was wise enough not to listen to this lunatic.
>>
>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Milly Williamson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> Perhaps Elina really doesn’t know that over 1,200 Palestinians have been killed since the siege started and that over 250 of them were children. Perhaps she doesn’t know these facts because the Israeli Broadcasting Authority banned the human rights organisation B’Tselem from broadcasting a paid-for advert on Israeli Radio which listed the names of the dead children. The thing is, Elina, that the rest of the world has seen the list of names of these dead children, and we have seen pictures of them.  Many of them were babies. We have also seen the pictures of the thousands of traumatised and injured children in Gaza. Have you read Gideon Levy yet?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Media, Communications and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carlsten, Jennie
>>> Sent: 30 July 2014 13:46
>>>
>>>
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza
>>>
>>>
>>> Of course Elina has a right to express her views.  Surely it is appropriate for others to point out where those views are informed by her professional affiliations. That would seem very pertinent to the discussion and to the purpose of having such a discussion in this forum.
>>>
>>> Far from shutting her out of the conversation, I would very much like to ask Elina, again, to clarify her words about "the hundreds of dead terrorists whom you call children."
>>>
>>> Please.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Jennie Carlsten
>>>
>>> From: Media, Communications and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Cahal McLaughlin [[log in to unmask]]
>>> Sent: 30 July 2014 13:41
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza
>>>
>>> Dear Karl,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems appropriate to include the information that Elina states on her own Linked In page that she has acted as an advisor to Netanyahu. If that is a 'smear and slur', then I suggest you ask Elina why she has slurred herself.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am happy to say that I have gone on protest marches against the current genocide in Gaza. That, of course, should colour your and Elina's and others' interpretation of my contribution to this debate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cahal
>>>
>>>
>>> Cahal McLaughlin
>>> Professor of Film Studies,
>>> School of Creative Arts,
>>> Queens University Belfast
>>> Room 003, First Floor,
>>> 21 University Square,
>>> Belfast BT7 1NN
>>> N. Ireland
>>> 00 44 2890973634
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> www.prisonsmemoryarchive.com
>>>
>>>
>>> www.facebook.com/creativeartsqub
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 Jul 2014, at 13:36, Spracklen, Karl wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello all
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While I tend to agree with the majority view here on the disgraceful actions of the Israeli government, I am disturbed by the way this is becoming a trial by smear and slur of Elina. Are we going to do some research on everyone who comments here so we can establish what they may have done in the past that makes them ‘less reliable’? This is becoming rather nasty rather quickly and we would all warn our students from making such ad hominem attacks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Elina has a complete right to state her views and to defend herself in a civilized manner. Yes, I know Palestinians are being denied that by the Israeli government, but two wrongs do not make a right.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Karl Spracklen
>>>
>>> www.karlspracklen.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Media, Communications and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mohammed-Ali Abunajela
>>> Sent: 30 July 2014 13:27
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Probably it was Elina who advised her Prime Minster, Benjamin Netanyahu, to establish this programme:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Israel Offers Students Grants If They Tweet Favorable Propaganda. See this:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a campaign to improve its image abroad, the Israeli government plans to provide scholarships to hundreds of students at its seven universities in exchange for their making pro-Israel Facebook posts and tweets to foreign audiences.
>>>
>>> The students making the posts will not reveal online that they are funded by the Israeli government, according to correspondence about the plan revealed in the Haaretz newspaper.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office, which will oversee the programme, confirmed its launch and wrote that its aim was to “strengthen Israeli public diplomacy and make it fit the changes in the means of information consumption”.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Israel Offers Students Grants If They Tweet Favorable Propaganda
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Israel Offers Students Grants If They Tweet Favorable Pr...
>>>
>>> Israel is trying to fight back against the power of social media.
>>>
>>> MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "crooksandliars.com" claiming to be View on crooksandliars.com
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>>>
>>> From: Cahal McLaughlin <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: Mohammed Ali <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Cc: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:55 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just to remind late joiners to the list, that Elina is named on her Linked-In page as an advisor to the Israeli prime minister.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cahal
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cahal McLaughlin
>>> Professor of Film Studies,
>>> School of Creative Arts,
>>> Queens University Belfast
>>> Room 003, First Floor,
>>> 21 University Square,
>>> Belfast BT7 1NN
>>> N. Ireland
>>> 00 44 2890973634
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> www.prisonsmemoryarchive.com
>>>
>>>
>>> www.facebook.com/creativeartsqub
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 Jul 2014, at 12:32, Mohammed Ali wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Elina,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can play the role of the victim as much as you want but won't be able to mislead us. You need to admit that Israel is occupying and looting Palestinian  lands, destroying their homes, illegally blockading the Gaza Strip, unjustly put people in prison including children, targeting hospitals and disabled care homes, and unlawful implementing continuing and discriminate attacks. About 1300 civilians killed, 40% children, and thwarting any peace efforts and many other criminal acts. What do you expect? You are very lucky to have a shelter to hide but but Palestinians don't have one. For several times, UN schools used as shelters have been targeted - including one today killing more than 20 people. Please don't give us any 'moral' lessons and only blame your illegal terrorist government.
>>>
>>> Mohammed-Ali
>>>
>>> University of Bedfordshire.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 Jul 2014, at 11:51, Elina Bardach-Yalov <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Milly, this is really nice of you to write for the whole world... Especially about hundreds of dead terrorists whom you call children... (And yes, I am aware of civilian casualties, which is very sad indeed).
>>>
>>> And my point regarding rockets is - even if something does't kill you, it does irreversible psychological damage. Just think about it - you are writing me this post from some nice office and I am replying from a very unpleasant bomb shelter. And since we have sirens again, I am sorry, but you will have to continue this important discussion without me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Milly Williamson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, imagine then what it must have felt like for the hundreds of children who were blown apart by Israeli bombs; imagine the hundreds and hundreds of dead adults; imagine the thousands of injured and maimed, with very little medical help; imagine the mothers who have had to hold their dead children; imagine fleeing to a UN school, because you have nowhere else to go, and still being blown apart by Israeli bombs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Israel is finally losing its propaganda war. No one believes your lies any more, except you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Media, Communications and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Elina Bardach-Yalov
>>> Sent: 30 July 2014 11:18
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just hope that you called my point of view a "Zionist provocation". It is really flattering, as I have never answered any of "anti-Zionist" posts or emails. This time I really decided that this very interesting and important community has to hear the other voice. The voice of someone, who jumped out of bed once again during the night because of some HAMAS fanatic, who decided to send another rocket to her home town.
>>>
>>> PS From personal experience - the siren is much more frightening than a rocket. You keep hearing a siren for 45 seconds and it takes only a few seconds for a rocket to explode.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Michael Chanan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> The members of this list are to be congratulated for a discussion which, while different points of viewed were being aired, immediately rose to the Zionist provocation and transcended it before the perpetrator was outed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Chanan
>>>
>>> www.mchanan.com
>>>
>>> www.putneydebater.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:37:26 +0000
From:    Stuart Price <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Message from JiscMail Helpline regarding recent discussions

An interesting development: censorship 'lite' under the guise of preventing (among other things) 'personal attacks'?

I'm sure most of us feel no 'personal' animosity towards any of the contributors - more worrying is the tactical attempt to characterise this exchange as an attack on one individual, when in fact the useful aspect of the discussion is academic/political

I think we're all prepared to excuse the occasional emotional outburst (on either, or on any 'side'), because it would be a very unfeeling individual who did not recognise the 'affective' character of this topic, or who was unwilling to make some allowances for personal experience

However, the relative isolation of Dr Bardach-Yalov - besides her background in 'reputation management' - can be traced in part to her reluctance to engage in normative standards of argument (the intellectual or logical demands of making a reasonably watertight case)

She may not be alone in this, but it would be a mistake to accept the line that this is a matter of 'personality' when the list may in fact be functioning as it should

She

Stuart
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Dear Lisa,

By which editorial process will you decide what should be said and by whom on this subject association's communication forum?

Are you preventing us from commenting on media coverage of the current massacre in Gaza by the Israeli government, supported by our own governments?

Are you suggesting that such a discussion is not possible on this list?

Best wishes,

Cahal

Cahal McLaughlin
Professor of Film Studies,
School of Creative Arts,
Queens University Belfast
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21 University Square,
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Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:38:02 +0300
From:    Elina Bardach-Yalov <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza


Nice comment from someone who is completely unable to see the other side of the story.
Dr. Elina Bardach-Yalov
David Yellin College of Education

> On Jul 30, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Julian Petley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Stuart is quite correct, and participants in this debate have a perfect right to enquire exactly where Dr Bardach-Yalov is coming from, and to draw certain conclusions from what they discover. This is not in order to censor her or demean her, but simply in order to gauge whether it’s actually worth engaging with her. In my view, it’s not. As far as I’m concerned, the most interesting contributions to this debate have been those which have put the current situation into its long historical context, and which have also stressed its intense complexity. But what we are repeatedly getting from Dr Bardach-Yelov, and which is threatening to run a very valuable debate into a cul-de-sac, are the product of what appears to be a totally closed mind and an expression of exactly the same bunker mentality as that of the Israeli politicians that we encounter every day in the British media. I would suggest there is no more point in trying to engage such people in a sensible, rational debate than there is in trying to persuade the flat earth brigade that the planet is in fact round.  Dr Bardach-Yalov has managed to pull off the extremely difficult feat of making even the BBC coverage of Gaza look relatively ‘balanced’ by comparison with her entirely one-sided view of the situation, and I suspect that she has given us a glimpse of the kind of endless barrage which the BBC and ITN will be receiving from Israelis absolutely convinced that British broadcasters are  daily pumping out floods of anti-Israel and pro-Hamas propaganda. Anybody who criticises Israel’s actions, and especially when it comes to its relationship with the Palestinians, is liable to be deluged with the kind of stuff which Dr Bardach-Yelov is churning out – indeed, with far, far worse – but I must admit to being rather surprised at encountering it in this context.
>
> Best, Julian.
>
> Julian Petley
> Professor of Screen Media,
> School of Arts,
> Brunel University,
> Uxbridge,
> UB8 2PJ
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Media, Communications and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stuart Price
> Sent: 30 July 2014 14:05
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza
>
> Dear All
>
> The concern shared by the majority of respondents is to understand the role assumed by Dr Bardach-Yalov, rather than to question her right to comment on events per se
>
> Although individuals can act in more than one capacity, many of which combine and overlap (citizen, academic, parent, etc.), the unease felt by many on the list can be attributed to the conviction that other functions ('advisor', 'propagandist', etc.) tend to undermine the participant's credibility, at the point at which she describes anything beyond her immediate situation
>
> This is not an argument about the corrosive effect of 'bias' or conviction (which as we know can be attributed to many individuals) but about the role of current or ex-state functionaries. A functionary can still act in another capacity - as a witness for example - and may produce some useful insights, but it is the ability of such a person to offer a balanced assessment of the larger context that is in doubt
>
> Best wishes
>
> Stuart Price (not the Stuart that wanted this debate to take place elsewhere)
>
>
> From: Media, Communications and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Cahal McLaughlin [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 30 July 2014 13:41
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaz/b> 30 July 2014 13:41
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza
>
> Dear Karl,
>
> It seems appropriate to include the information that Elina states on her own Linked In page that she has acted as an advisor to Netanyahu. If that is a 'smear and slur', then I suggest you ask Elina why she has slurred herself.
>
> I am happy to say that I have gone on protest marches against the current genocide in Gaza. That, of course, should colour your and Elina's and others' interpretation of my contribution to this debate.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Cahal
>
> Cahal McLaughlin
> Professor of Film Studies,
> School of Creative Arts,
> Queens University Belfast
> Room 003, First Floor,
> 21 University Square,
> Belfast BT7 1NN
> N. Ireland
> 00 44 2890973634
> [log in to unmask]
>
> www.prisonsmemoryarchive.com
>
> www.facebook.com/creativeartsqub
>
>
>
> On 30 Jul 2014, at 13:36, Spracklen, Karl wrote:
>
>
> Hello all
>
> While I tend to agree with the majority view here on the disgraceful actions of the Israeli government, I am disturbed by the way this is becoming a trial by smear and slur of Elina. Are we going to do some research on everyone who comments here so we can establish what they may have done in the past that makes them ‘less reliable’? This is becoming rather nasty rather quickly and we would all warn our students from making such ad hominem attacks.
>
> Elina has a complete right to state her views and to defend herself in a civilized manner. Yes, I know Palestinians are being denied that by the Israeli government, but two wrongs do not make a right.
>
> Karl Spracklen
> www.karlspracklen.com
>
>
> From: Media, Communications and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mohammed-Ali Abunajela
> Sent: 30 July 2014 13:27
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza
>
> Probably it was Elina who advised her Prime Minster, Benjamin Netanyahu, to establish this programme:
>
> Israel Offers Students Grants If They Tweet Favorable Propaganda. See this:
>
> In a campaign to improve its image abroad, the Israeli government plans to provide scholarships to hundreds of students at its seven universities in exchange for their making pro-Israel Facebook posts and tweets to foreign audiences.
> The students making the posts will not reveal online that they are funded by the Israeli government, according to correspondence about the plan revealed in the Haaretz newspaper.
>
> Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office, which will oversee the programme, confirmed its launch and wrote that its aim was to “strengthen Israeli public diplomacy and make it fit the changes in the means of information consumption†.
>
> Israel Offers Students Grants If They Tweet Favorable Propaganda
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> From: Cahal McLaughlin <[log in to unmask]>
> To: Mohammed Ali <[log in to unmask]>
> Cc: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza
>
> Dear all,
>
> Just to remind late joiners to the list, that Elina is named on her Linked-In page as an advisor to the Israeli prime minister.
>
> Cahal
>
>
> Cahal McLaughlin
> Professor of Film Studies,
> School of Creative Arts,
> Queens University Belfast
> Room 003, First Floor,
> 21 University Square,
> Belfast BT7 1NN
> N. Ireland
> 00 44 2890973634
> [log in to unmask]
>
> www.prisonsmemoryarchive.com
>
> www.facebook.com/creativeartsqub
>
>
> On 30 Jul 2014, at 12:32, Mohammed Ali wrote:
>
>
> Elina,
>
> You can play the role of the victim as much as you want but won't be able to mislead us. You need to admit that Israel is occupying and looting Palestinian lands, destroying their homes, illegally blockading the Gaza Strip, unjustly put people in prison including children, targeting hospitals and disabled care homes, and unlawful implementing continuing and discriminate attacks. About 1300 civilians killed, 40% children, and thwarting any peace efforts and many other criminal acts. What do you expect? You are very lucky to have a shelter to hide but but Palestinians don't have one. For several times, UN schools used as shelters have been targeted - including one today killing more than 20 people. Please don't give us any 'moral' lessons and only blame your illegal terrorist government.
>
> Mohammed-Ali
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Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2014 16:42:33 +0100
From:    Patti Gaal-Holmes <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: <No subject given>

Thanks Ann, me too.


Dr Patti Gaal-Holmes
Artist/Filmmaker & Historian
Reviews Editor: Transnational Cinemas
Forthcoming Publication (Palgrave Macmillan):
'A History of 1970s Experimental Film: Britain's Decade of Diversity'



On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Ann Overbergh <[log in to unmask]>
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> If any of you plan on continuing this discussion on another platform
> outside MECCSA, please let me know as I'd like to stay involved. This
> simple mailstring here could be such platform, however we'd be excluding
> people who have not contributed and wish to keep following. This is not a
> time to be silent; I'd be very interested in continuing to read different
> views, arguments, info and literature.
> Greetings,
> Ann
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Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:43:21 +0000
From:    "Carlsten, Jennie" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: <No subject given>

And me. Thank you.
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Thanks Ann, me too.


Dr Patti Gaal-Holmes
Artist/Filmmaker & Historian
Reviews Editor: Transnational Cinemas
Forthcoming Publication (Palgrave Macmillan):
'A History of 1970s Experimental Film: Britain's Decade of Diversity'



On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Ann Overbergh <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
If any of you plan on continuing this discussion on another platform outside MECCSA, please let me know as I'd like to stay involved. This simple mailstring here could be such platform, however we'd be excluding people who have not contributed and wish to keep following. This is not a time to be silent; I'd be very interested in continuing to read different views, arguments, info and literature.
Greetings,
Ann
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Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2014 16:34:51 +0100
From:    Emad S M <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza

Elina,

Sometimes I wonder if the Israeli society in general is connected to a central electronic brain that got froze on the word terrorism. Unable to look beyond that, the Israeli government adopted the ''repeat it, somebody might believe'' principle.

In the end of the day what matters the most is how Palestinians actually view Hamas and the other factions. May I remind you that Hamas is a natural output of the Israeli occupation?! You might not agree on their methods and approach, but in the eyes of every Palestinian Hamas is a fully legitimate anti-occupation movement. Same as was PLO and Fatah - which by the way were and occasionally - up to Israel's liking - still are a bunch of terrorists. For Israel, to simply resist turns you into a terrorist.

If you have any other options for Palestinians to rid themselves of the occupation, I am all ears. the 20+ years fruitless peace process doesn't qualify as a solution.


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Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:48:03 +0000
From:    Stuart Price <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza

Dear All

Here's a sober assessment of state propaganda, written on a Facebook site:

'As I wrote in my previous post the "big lie" strategy in the Russian-Ukrainian conflict is preventing both sides from identifying their own government's propaganda. The Russian and Ukrainian media are successfully creating their own virtual worlds that have an outstanding effect on their publics'

'preventing both sides from identifying their own government's propaganda'

Author - Dr. Elina Bardach-Yalov
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Elina,

Sometimes I wonder if the Israeli society in general is connected to a central electronic brain that got froze on the word terrorism. Unable to look beyond that, the Israeli government adopted the ''repeat it, somebody might believe'' principle.

In the end of the day what matters the most is how Palestinians actually view Hamas and the other factions. May I remind you that Hamas is a natural output of the Israeli occupation?! You might not agree on their methods and approach, but in the eyes of every Palestinian Hamas is a fully legitimate anti-occupation movement. Same as was PLO and Fatah - which by the way were and occasionally - up to Israel's liking - still are a bunch of terrorists. For Israel, to simply resist turns you into a terrorist.

If you have any other options for Palestinians to rid themselves of the occupation, I am all ears. the 20+ years fruitless peace process doesn't qualify as a solution.


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Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:48:45 +0000
From:    Angela Phillips <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Message from JiscMail Helpline regarding recent discussions

This is extraordinary and bizarre.  Why censor a conversation that many people are interested in?  I agree that personal attacks are not helpful but surely as a group of academics we can sort of the ad hominem attacks for the good stuff?  Even if only a handful more people have read Judith Butlers piece (circulated  earlier) we will have done a little to move discussion away from mudslinging to a consideration of the complexity of the situation.
I have been involved in discussions on another forum this week in which I was the only person speaking up for the Palestinians and, yes its painful to be attacked, specially when so much of the attack is ill thought through and illogical. I chose in the end to withdraw - that was my choice.  I did't try to stop the others talking.  As scholars in the field of Communications we must surely be trusted to talk to one another on this sensitive subject without the need of a ‘nanny’.
Angela


On 30 Jul 2014, at 16:37, Stuart Price <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

An interesting development: censorship 'lite' under the guise of preventing (among other things) 'personal attacks'?

I'm sure most of us feel no 'personal' animosity towards any of the contributors - more worrying is the tactical attempt to characterise this exchange as an attack on one individual, when in fact the useful aspect of the discussion is academic/political

I think we're all prepared to excuse the occasional emotional outburst (on either, or on any 'side'), because it would be a very unfeeling individual who did not recognise the 'affective' character of this topic, or who was unwilling to make some allowances for personal experience

However, the relative isolation of Dr Bardach-Yalov - besides her background in 'reputation management' - can be traced in part to her reluctance to engage in normative standards of argument (the intellectual or logical demands of making a reasonably watertight case)

She may not be alone in this, but it would be a mistake to accept the line that this is a matter of 'personality' when the list may in fact be functioning as it should

She

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Dear Lisa,

By which editorial process will you decide what should be said and by whom on this subject association's communication forum?

Are you preventing us from commenting on media coverage of the current massacre in Gaza by the Israeli government, supported by our own governments?

Are you suggesting that such a discussion is not possible on this list?

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Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:48:46 +0000
From:    Julian Petley <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: <No subject given>

I suggest we wait to see what Lisa says in response to Cahal before we give up on this forum.

Julian.

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And me. Thank you.
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Thanks Ann, me too.


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Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2014 16:52:14 +0100
From:    Emad S M <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Behind the News from Gaza

Elina,

I'm more than happy to visit Ashdod, I might as well bring my grandad's land registry documents...who knows? It's probably the same house where you currently live. Anyway, I'm sorry you have to live in constant fear of Palestinian homemade missile for the past 6 years, I really am. I am sorry for the 'inconvenience' this might cause you!

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Thank you Lisa!

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Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2014 16:57:44 +0100
From:    John Armitage <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: <No subject given>

I agree Julian



And I would be especially interested to hear from Lisa what part of "Behind the News from Gaza" is not concerned with “discussion of aspects of academic research & teaching within Media, Communication, Film, Television & Cultural Studies.”



John.

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I suggest we wait to see what Lisa says in response to Cahal before we give up on this forum.



Julian.



Julian Petley

Professor of Screen Media,

School of Arts,

Brunel University,

Uxbridge,

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From: Media, Communications and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carlsten, Jennie
Sent: 30 July 2014 16:43
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And me. Thank you.

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Thanks Ann, me too.






Dr Patti Gaal-Holmes

Artist/Filmmaker & Historian
Reviews Editor: Transnational Cinemas

Forthcoming Publication (Palgrave Macmillan):
'A History of 1970s Experimental Film: Britain's Decade of Diversity'





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Greetings,

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Date:    Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:58:48 +0300
From:    HUJI <[log in to unmask]>
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Me too. Thank you.
Noam




‫ב-30 ביול 2014, בשעה 18:43, ‏"Carlsten, Jennie" <[log in to unmask]> כתב/ה:‬

> And me. Thank you.
> From: Media, Communications and Cultural Studies Association (MeCCSA) [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Patti Gaal-Holmes [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 30 July 2014 16:42
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> Thanks Ann, me too.
>
>
> Dr Patti Gaal-Holmes
> Artist/Filmmaker & Historian
> Reviews Editor: Transnational Cinemas
> Forthcoming Publication (Palgrave Macmillan):
> 'A History of 1970s Experimental Film: Britain's Decade of Diversity'
>
>
>
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Ann Overbergh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> If any of you plan on continuing this discussion on another platform outside MECCSA, please let me know as I'd like to stay involved. This simple mailstring here could be such platform, however we'd be excluding people who have not contributed and wish to keep following. This is not a time to be silent; I'd be very interested in continuing to read different views, arguments, info and literature.
>> Greetings,
>> Ann
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