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Hi Anderson,

I'm using TBSS. I used the same sample and the same number of variables to
perform similar analyses and everything worked.

Here is the matrix:

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/NumPoints    69
/PPheights        3.900000e+01    2.400000e+01    2.000000e+00
7.000000e+02    1.000000e+00    1.000000e+00

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Thanks!



2014-07-15 17:13 GMT+02:00 Anderson M. Winkler <[log in to unmask]>:

> Hi Irene,
> Just to be sure, could you please post your design matrix here and tell
> whether this study is using VBM, TBSS, fMRI or yet something else? Thanks!
> Anderson
>
>
>
> On 15 July 2014 15:09, Irene Bollettini <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Anderson,
>> thanks for your response.
>> I waited for one week, just for the contrast 3, and the analysis didn't
>> run out.
>> It surprises me, because I performed analyses with much more subjects
>> (till 130 subjects) using the same workstation and this message didn't
>> appear.
>>
>> Thank you again,
>> best
>>
>> Irene
>>
>>
>> 2014-07-15 15:38 GMT+02:00 Anderson M. Winkler <[log in to unmask]>:
>>
>> Hi Irene,
>>> This is just a warning, indicating that it will take longer for these
>>> contrasts to run. It's not an error, and if you see the results at the end,
>>> it's fine.
>>> All the best,
>>> Anderson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15 July 2014 12:21, Irene Bollettini <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear FSL experts,
>>>>
>>>> while running randomise, this message appears:
>>>>
>>>> "2.69808e+17 permutations required for exhaustive test of t-test 1
>>>> Doing 5000 random permutations
>>>> Starting permutation 1 (Unpermuted data)
>>>> Starting permutation 2
>>>> Warning: tfce has detected a large number of integral steps. This
>>>> operation may require a great deal of time to complete"
>>>>
>>>> This message appears for the contrast 3, 4, 5 and 6, whereas the first
>>>> two contrasts work.
>>>>
>>>> The order of the images matches the design.con and design.mat files.
>>>> I attached the commands below
>>>>
>>>> *Design.mat. *
>>>> NumWaves 6
>>>> /NumPoints 69
>>>> /PPheights 3.900000e+01 2.400000e+01 2.000000e+00 7.000000e+02
>>>> 1.000000e+00 1.000000e+00
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Design.con*
>>>>
>>>> /ContrastName1    m>v
>>>> /ContrastName2    m<v
>>>> /ContrastName3    +m
>>>> /ContrastName4    -m
>>>> /ContrastName5    +v
>>>> /ContrastName6    -v
>>>> /NumWaves    6
>>>> /NumContrasts    6
>>>> /PPheights        1.207759e+00    1.207759e+00    1.634991e+00
>>>>  1.634991e+00    1.367166e+00    1.367166e+00
>>>> /RequiredEffect        1.267    1.267    0.960    0.960    1.238
>>>>  1.238
>>>>
>>>> *Matrix*
>>>>
>>>> 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 1.000000e+00
>>>> -1.000000e+00
>>>> 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 -1.000000e+00
>>>> 1.000000e+00
>>>> 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 1.000000e+00
>>>> 0.000000e+00
>>>> 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 -1.000000e+00
>>>> 0.000000e+00
>>>> 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00
>>>> 1.000000e+00
>>>> 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00
>>>> -1.000000e+00
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could you help me?
>>>>
>>>> thank you,
>>>> Irene
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Irene Bollettini
>>>> PhD student
>>>> Scientific Institute and University Vita-Salute San Raffaele
>>>> Deptartment of Clinical Neurosciences
>>>> San Raffaele Turro
>>>> via Stamira d'Ancona 20
>>>> 20127 Milano Italy
>>>>   tel +39 02 26433156
>>>>   fax +39 02 26433265
>>>>   E-mail *[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>*
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Irene Bollettini
>> PhD student
>> Scientific Institute and University Vita-Salute San Raffaele
>> Deptartment of Clinical Neurosciences
>> San Raffaele Turro
>> via Stamira d'Ancona 20
>> 20127 Milano Italy
>>   tel +39 02 26433156
>>   fax +39 02 26433265
>>   E-mail *[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>*
>>
>
>


-- 
Irene Bollettini
PhD student
Scientific Institute and University Vita-Salute San Raffaele
Deptartment of Clinical Neurosciences
San Raffaele Turro
via Stamira d'Ancona 20
20127 Milano Italy
  tel +39 02 26433156
  fax +39 02 26433265
  E-mail *[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>*