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Many thanks Ben, this is really helpful.

Phyll 


> On 26 Jul 2014, at 13:48, "Djulbegovic, Benjamin" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Phyll,
> There is currently no consensus how large the effect size should be to overcome concerns of bias ( and random error). Paul Glasziou has suggested 10 times differences, GRADE suggests multiple studies with effects size 2-5 times as large ( going in the same directions).
> We have been trying to answer this question empirically, but so far this has been hampered by lack of funding...
> Hope this helps
> Best
> Ben 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> ( please excuse typos & brevity)
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 8:41 AM, "Phyll Buchanan" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Any thoughts on how to decide whether the effect sizes are so large they should overcome these concerns?