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At least we are not hosting the FiFa footy -- dumped onto Brazilians they can riot while London Lurches see the latest spikes in pavement to stop homeless sleeping P D'Grumpoet -----Original Message----- From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lawrence Upton Sent: 13 June 2014 11:22 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: pat snap 630 !"!"!" It means "the Romans are coming" like the whistle tooting in Adalen 31, if you know that film and in come the Romans led by Boris Johnson, nightmare of London, followed by three renovated German water cannon -- I don't know if you get such details of our news. In an attempt to build bridges with the public, the police want to spray us with high pressure water. Asked how that helps stop looting, the police replied "Move along now" Boris has volunteered to be attacked by a water cannon, to show it is safe. As the last riots were caused when the police shot an unarmed man, it would be more apposite to shoot him; under controlled conditions, of course That's the Launceston, I meant. Pronounced Lanson. from Lan Stefan, sacred place of St Stephen toodle pip L On 13 June 2014 05:05, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > So Tooting means Roman, L? I did wonder. We have Launceston in > northern Tasmania. > > B > > On 12/06/2014, at 7:53 PM, Lawrence Upton wrote: > > > Do. > > It's "always" been there. (They used to think the Romans founded > > London > but > > keep finding quite large structures from way back. TG is on a Roman > > road and that, it's said, is what Tooting means via a lost item of > > the a-s vocab. Graveney is a Norman family name, and the Normans > > still run the country. There's a Graveney near Faversham in Kent (a > > one time major port)... that I can only explain by reference to the > > creation of myself > and > > a friend in yoof, the Royal Society of Transportation of Towns, > > which builds duplicates nationally and internationally as part of job creation. > > There's a Streatham, where I used to live, next to TG, somewhere in > > East Anglia I believe + of course London Ontario and Launcester in > > your own sunburnt country etc et cetera > > > > L > > > > > > On 12 June 2014 07:27, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > >> I'll add Tooting Graveney to Wandle as another t'riffic name. L, P. > >> > >> B > >> > >> On 12/06/2014, at 1:19 AM, Lawrence Upton wrote: > >> > >>> He was, the sad creature. The Graveney is a tributary of the > >>> Wandle and > >> you > >>> could see it about to go underground a mile or so south of my > >>> parents > >> house > >>> in Tooting Graveney. That house had a coal cellar. In the winter > >>> it was inches deep in water. There were something like 40 houses > >>> along one > side > >> of > >>> our road where there had been 4 in the days that Johnson went > >>> sniffing after the scent of Mrs Thrale - you could spit at Thrale > >>> Rd from where > I > >>> was teenaged, and sometimes I did. Presumably the forces of > >>> Edwardian capitalism decided there was no need to allow a space to > >>> the ghost of a river. > >>> > >>> Anyway, dear boy, do show respect to our natural powers. Let's > >>> live by British values. > >>> > >>> pip pip > >>> > >>> L > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 11 June 2014 16:13, Patrick McManus > >>> <[log in to unmask]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> William Morris was the man picked the Wandle and inspired -News > From > >>>> Nowhere > >>>> P > >>>> Ps sorry L to offend your mighty river > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics > >>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > >> On > >>>> Behalf Of Lawrence Upton > >>>> Sent: 11 June 2014 12:41 > >>>> To: [log in to unmask] > >>>> Subject: Re: pat snap 630 !"!"!" > >>>> > >>>> Pat as a citizen once of and now near the Wandle I take issue > >>>> with > your > >>>> description of its being piddling. Too much re and misdirection; > >>>> but > in > >> its > >>>> unaltered state it was a substantial Thames tributary and a major > >> centre of > >>>> early industrialisation > >>>> > >>>> L > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 11 June 2014 12:35, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Pat, I laughed. Like the local content too. But you might > >>>>> consider butting out one of your buts. Two buts throws readers > >>>>> out. Line 4 could simply begin, 'It was' for instance without > >>>>> disarming your > flow. > >>>>> > >>>>> Bill > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 11 Jun 2014, at 6:39 pm, Patrick McManus < > >>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> RIVER > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I am not > >>>>>> criticising > >>>>>> she said > >>>>>> but it was > >>>>>> all very well > >>>>>> naming our son > >>>>>> Moses > >>>>>> but isn't it > >>>>>> a bit much > >>>>>> to make a cradle > >>>>>> to tar it > >>>>>> to float it > >>>>>> in the river > >>>>>> after all > >>>>>> the Wandle > >>>>>> is hardly > >>>>>> the Nile > >>>>>> and as far > >>>>>> as I know > >>>>>> there are no > >>>>>> Pharaoh's Daughters > >>>>>> living in > >>>>>> Earlsfield > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> pmcmanus > >>>>>> r573 > >>>>>> some here will know this but > >>>>>> > >>>>>> River Wandle is a local piddling River Earlsfied -is a > >>>>>> sub-suburbia nearby This inspired by partner suddenly taking up > >>>>>> a writing course -subject > >>>>> 'River > >>>>>> Wandle' > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > >