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Sarah + all:

I actually think that there's some stuff worth engaging in this...

I haven't read Joanne's book, so I can't speak to the ways in which this
piece fails as a review, but this closing statement definitely sent a
shiver down my browser:

"The problem with the book, as with internet art, is that no one has
recognised the aesthetic problems of provincial conversation. Work by
artists who turn inward to have hushed talks with a small coterie about
local problems will have little effect on culture at large. McLuhan’s
global village may have its merits, but the cultural celebration of
marginalism in art is not one of them."

The reactionary in me would outright disagree with this, but I did have a
moment of thinking bout who does address the aesthetic problems of the
"provincial conversation" of internet art. So maybe as a way of thinking
about outright disagreeing with Pac Pobric, the list might suggest some
compelling counters?

To that end, the metric of cultural relevance as proposed in this article
is squarely situated in archaic models of art presentation/distribution (I
think that a lot of us can agree on that). So instead of operating in the
suburbs, how could the list propose that it is in fact the art world that
is suburban - with its gated community paywalls, whitecube picket fences,
and McMansions Art Centers - instead of the other way around.

very best



On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Kelani Nichole <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> He is based in Brooklyn, no worries tho y'all I already invited him to our
> next opening at TRANSFER – Claudia Maté on July 12 :D
>
>
> Bests,
> Kelani Nichole
>
> Curatorial Director, TRANSFER
> http://transfer.gallery
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:49 AM, marc garrett <
> [log in to unmask]
> > wrote:
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> > Wow!
> >
> > Where do they find these people?
> >
> > marc
> >
> >  Hi CRUMBs
> >> thought you might be interested to read this article about internet art,
> >> which is a thin review of the book Art and the Internet, Joanne McNeil
> et
> >> al, Black Dog Publishing.
> >>
> >>
> http://www.theartnewspaper.com/articles/Internet-art-fails-to-click/32983
> >>
> >> It suggests that internet art takes place in the suburbs, that it is
> >> provincial.
> >> Use it as yet another rallying cry to improve the art history of this
> >> field of practice.
> >>
> >> Sarah
> >>
> >>
> >> ===
> >>
> >> Dr. Sarah Cook
> >> Reader / Dundee Fellow
> >> Duncan of Jordanstone College of Art and Design
> >> University of Dundee
> >> 13 Perth Road DD1 4HT
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Nicholas O'Brien

Visiting Faculty | Gallery Director
Department of Digital Art, Pratt Institute
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