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Hi ,
Can I use the "cluster" command to report the peak of the clusters in the
randomise with t-stat ?
Is it right to use the following command ?
cluster -i tbss_tfce_corrp_tstat1 -t 0.95 -c tbss_tstat1 --scalarname="1-p"
> cluster_corrp1.txt

And I don't understand the words " do not base the clusters on the t-stat,
but run the cluster command using the corrp image as the input and -t 0.95
(in which case you don't need to run the first fslmaths command either) "
in your reply .

Best .

Xinfa Shi .


2014-06-04 14:27 GMT+08:00 Mark Jenkinson <[log in to unmask]>:

>  Hi,
> That version is quite old now so we recommend you upgrade to the latest
> version.  The old version is definitely the cause of the problem you are
> having with the --scalarname option.
> All the best,
>     Mark
>  On 4 Jun 2014 01:59, Xinfa Shi <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>  Hi ,
>
>  I‘m using FSL 4.1.9 .Is there a problem ?
>
>  Best .
>
>  Xinfa Shi .
>
>
> 2014-06-04 3:02 GMT+08:00 Anderson M. Winkler <[log in to unmask]>:
>
>>  Hi Xinfa,
>>  Not sure... Maybe you are using an old version of FSL?
>>  Anderson
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3 June 2014 16:07, Xinfa Shi <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi ,
>>> To report cluster information from randomise output t-test , could I
>>> use the following command :
>>>  cluster -i tbss_tfce_corrp_tstat1 -t 0.95 -c tbss_tstat1
>>> --scalarname="1-p" > cluster_corrp1.txt
>>>
>>>  I try it ,but the error message occur : --scalarname: Option doesn't
>>> exist
>>> Why ?
>>>
>>>  Best .
>>>
>>>  Xinfa Shi .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-05-31 19:16 GMT+08:00 Anderson M. Winkler <[log in to unmask]>:
>>>
>>>
>>>  PS: oops! where I wrote z-stat I meant t-stat, the image that you are
>>>> using with -mul in fslmaths. Regardless, you already got other insights
>>>> from MJ!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 30/05/2014 23:58, schrieb Anderson M. Winkler:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi Xinfa,
>>>>
>>>> The procedure to get the coordinates looks fine to me.
>>>>  Regarding the difference, it might be that you are using the TFCE
>>>> image in FSLview, whereas the peak of the clusters is being identified with
>>>> the z-stat image; they aren't guaranteed to be the same, and will often
>>>> differ: TFCE has the benefit if considering also the spatial extent,
>>>> something the simple z-stat doesn't do.
>>>>
>>>>  All the best,
>>>>
>>>> Anderson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29 May 2014 15:11, SUBSCRIBE FSL Xinfa_Shi <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi ,
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I have finished statistic analysis about FA data in TBSS by the
>>>>> command “randomise “, getting these files( tbss_tstat1.nii.gz ,
>>>>> tbss_tstat2.nii.gz, tbss_tfce_corrp_tstat1.nii.gz ,
>>>>> tbss_tfce_corrp_tstat2.nii.gz , tbss_tfce_p_tstat1.nii.gz , and
>>>>> tbss_tfce_p_tstat2.nii.gz) . Then I want to sort out the result following
>>>>> the steps below :
>>>>> 1.      Getting Cluster and Peak Information from Randomise Output by
>>>>> following commands:
>>>>> fslmaths tbss_tfce_corrp_tstat1 -thr 0.90 -bin -mul tbss_tstat1
>>>>> tbss_thresh_tstat1
>>>>>
>>>>> cluster --in=tbss_thresh_tstat1 --thresh=0.0001
>>>>> --oindex=tbss_cluster_index --olmax=tbss_lmax.txt --osize=tbss_cluster_size
>>>>>
>>>>> The result is :
>>>>> Cluster Index   Voxels  Z-MAX Z-MAX X (mm)       Z-MAX Y (mm)
>>>>> Z-MAX Z (mm)      Z-COG X (mm)       Z-COG Y (mm) Z-COG Z (mm)
>>>>> 6     2077    4.11     46  26  9     33.7     10.2     22.2
>>>>> 5     1190    4.68     -20 23  35  -22.3    29.2     18.4
>>>>> 4     850       3.55     19  3     41  15.8     17.6     32.8
>>>>> 3     104       3.99     21  46  3     18.9     41.3     -2.34
>>>>> 2     58  3.12     32  -34 13  30.9     -35.2    15.1
>>>>> 1     46  4.47     30  18  37  30.3     17.9     37.4
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.      View  tbss_tfce_corrp_tstat1 loading  the white matter atlas
>>>>> JHU-WhiteMatter-labels-1mm.nii.gz  in fslview by the following command:
>>>>>
>>>>> fslview $FSLDIR/data/standard/MNI152_T1_1mm mean_FA_skeleton -l Green
>>>>> -b 0.2,0.7 tbss_tfce_corrp_tstat1 -l Red-Yellow -b 0.90,1
>>>>> The result is seen in the attached picture .
>>>>>
>>>>> Question:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.      Is it right in the above process ?
>>>>> 2.      In FSLView , the coordinates (mm) presenting significant
>>>>> difference (Red-Yellow) are different from  the coordinates   (mm) deriving
>>>>> from cluster command .
>>>>> That’s why ? What is the relation between them ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe my expression is not clear due to poor English ,and I’m very
>>>>> sorry for it .
>>>>> In a word ,I want to know that how should I sort out the result
>>>>> presenting brain regions and clusters .
>>>>>
>>>>> Best .
>>>>>
>>>>> Xinfa Shi.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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