It's both. Over time such issues have become more prominent, but in essence the inaccuracies largely remain the same. On that basis, how do you loose a memory of something when it's already out there. You may delete it from Google, but it will doubtless be on a number of other websites to be found. It's a red herring, the "forgotten" bit, if you forget how do you remember you have forgotten next time something gets indexed? It's a regulated(?) right of reply/correction that is the important aspect here.
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From: Baines, Jonathan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 02 June 2014 14:15
To: Simon Howarth; [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: [data-protection] How to get your details from Googke
"Nothing has changed, just how accessible it is"
Isn't that the key point? As I see it the "right to be forgotten" in this case didn't necessarily mean any more than a right to request deletion of *certain* information to reduce its prominence.
Jon Baines,
Chairman
www.nadpo.org.uk
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From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Simon Howarth
Sent: 02 June 2014 13:48
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] How to get your details from Googke
I personally believe the right to be forgotten is a massive red herring. There has never been a right to be forgotten before, one person (I forget who) said Google is really just an extension of the village gossips that have existed for millennia. A right to have errors corrected, might be workable, but forgotten? I doubt it and I think the effort wasted on this could be better spent on more productive things.
Data mining methods, the sheer volume of information stored means that the chances of successfully anonymising personal data becomes more remote with every passing day. Some systems are so good at crunching "big data" that the systems almost identify people automatically purely because the algorithms used allow it to do so. It's one of the reasons why when the NHS says that care.data information will be anonymised, I don't believe them as I honestly think that when linked with other big data sets identification becomes inevitable, maybe not on day 1, but at some not-too-distant future point.
What we need to be doing is focussing our efforts not on protecting the privacy of data - those days are long gone, it's all out there now for those that want to look for it - but working on how we manage the data that is out there to ensure ethical and legal use regardless of how collected, matched, sorted, briefed, indexed, debriefed the data are.
The right to be forgotten is a massive waste of time and energy. Nothing has changed, just how accessible it is. Go into a newspaper archive in a library, history is there. It's not forgotten, it just takes a little study time to find what you need....
Simon Howarth MSc. MBCS CITP
www.informationedge.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lynn Wyeth
Sent: 30 May 2014 15:28
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] How to get your details from Googke
So how do Google intend to verify ID / consent?
And if you can easily work out what it is that has been removed, it probably reveals who has put in a requst for removal, isn't that revealing PD and the vicious cycle begins?
This really does raise more questions than it answers, doesn't it?
Lynn
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