Increase the number of allowed clashes in Phaser, re-run it then look at the packing of the solution found and identify the source of the clashes. Possibilities for the clash issue include: 1. Wrong space group 2. Flexible loops or termini in search model not present or differently arranged in your crystal target Once you look at the packing in Coot or Pymol, you will have a good idea of what to do next. If the problem is flexible loops or misplaced N- or C-termini, you can delete these regions from your search model (they are not helping you phase anyway) and re-run Phaser with an appropriately truncated search model. Cheers, _______________________________________ Roger S. Rowlett Gordon & Dorothy Kline Professor Department of Chemistry Colgate University 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, NY 13346 tel: (315)-228-7245 ofc: (315)-228-7395 fax: (315)-228-7935 email: [log in to unmask] On 6/17/2014 10:44 AM, Almudena Ponce Salvatierra wrote: > Dear ccp4 users, > > I get the following message from Phaser when I do a molecular > replacement with two ensembles. One of the ensembles is placed but the > second one is not placed, and then it says this: > > Solutions with Z-scores greater than 13.0 (the threshold indicating a > definite > > solution) were rejected for failing packing test > > #1 TFZ=16.8 PAK=487 > > #2 TFZ=17.4 PAK=440 > > #3 TFZ=17.0 PAK=312 > > #4 TFZ=16.7 PAK=294 > > #5 TFZ=16.8 PAK=227 > > #6 TFZ=16.6 PAK=284 > > #7 TFZ=16.2 PAK=219 > > #8 TFZ=16.3 PAK=287 > > #9 TFZ=16.1 PAK=186 > > #10 TFZ=16.6 PAK=277 > > #11 TFZ=16.7 PAK=204 > > #12 TFZ=16.8 PAK=404 > > #13 TFZ=15.9 PAK=271 > > #14 TFZ=15.8 PAK=194 > > #15 TFZ=14.9 PAK=229 > > #16 TFZ=16.4 PAK=368 > > #17 TFZ=17.3 PAK=194 > > #18 TFZ=15.2 PAK=240 > > #19 TFZ=16.1 PAK=325 > > #20 TFZ=15.3 PAK=455 > > #21 TFZ=16.5 PAK=298 > > #22 TFZ=16.6 PAK=290 > > #23 TFZ=15.2 PAK=259 > > #24 TFZ=16.2 PAK=194 > > #25 TFZ=16.1 PAK=314 > > #26 TFZ=16.3 PAK=194 > > #27 TFZ=16.3 PAK=387 > > #28 TFZ=15.6 PAK=193 > > #29 TFZ=15.7 PAK=219 > > #30 TFZ=15.6 PAK=474 > > #31 TFZ=15.1 PAK=194 > > #32 TFZ=15.4 PAK=339 > > #33 TFZ=15.5 PAK=210 > > #34 TFZ=15.2 PAK=300 > > #35 TFZ=15.6 PAK=186 > > #36 TFZ=16.2 PAK=216 > > #37 TFZ=14.9 PAK=182 > > #38 TFZ=15.7 PAK=279 > > #39 TFZ=15.5 PAK=285 > > #40 TFZ=15.0 PAK=374 > > #41 TFZ=15.4 PAK=404 > > #42 TFZ=15.3 PAK=185 > > #43 TFZ=15.6 PAK=227 > > #44 TFZ=14.8 PAK=364 > > #45 TFZ=15.7 PAK=193 > > #46 TFZ=14.5 PAK=448 > > #47 TFZ=14.6 PAK=219 > > #48 TFZ=15.5 PAK=210 > > #49 TFZ=15.7 PAK=189 > > #50 TFZ=15.0 PAK=193 > > #51 TFZ=15.0 PAK=281 > > #52 TFZ=15.2 PAK=202 > > > And the list still continues for a bit. How should I think about this? > I would assume that the clashes are too many only by seeing those > numbers, but maybe there is something else to take into account? > > Thanks a lot in advance. > > Best wishes, > > Almudena > > > > -- > Almudena Ponce-Salvatierra > Macromolecular crystallography and Nucleic acid chemistry > Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry > Am Fassberg 11 37077 Göttingen > Germany >