Hi All, there is something to clarify: 1. It was never the question to shift the communication from mails to facebook !!! (The only question was: Who shall see the members and posts of the Facebaook group: Public or only members.) 2. Between members of the facebookgroup is even less communication than by the AACORN Email-server !!! 3. That there is not much mail-communication is a question of identity of the network !!! 4. To keep alive the communication, it needs to invest time and engagement, beyond: What for !!! The facebook group of AACORN is very nice, because I can perceive the members in that context: Nice to have. Even without direct communication. And this does also create identity. I like that discussion Š because it is Š useless ! Best Jürgen Von: Birgit Ramsauer <[log in to unmask]> Antworten an: Birgit Ramsauer <[log in to unmask]> Datum: Montag, 5. Mai 2014 11:29 An: AACORN <[log in to unmask]> Betreff: Re: AACORN members at 17 March 2014 --- ACCESS TO FACEBOOK AACORN LIST! Dear AACORNers, I also agree with Ariane, That email shouls be our primary communication pool. All the best Birgit Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Ariane Berthoin Antal <[log in to unmask]> An: AACORN <[log in to unmask]> Verschickt: Mon, May 5, 2014 08:47 AM Betreff: Re: AACORN members at 17 March 2014 --- ACCESS TO FACEBOOK AACORN LIST! Yes, although I am on fb I agree that we should keep the email as our primary shared way of communicating. Best, Ariane > Hi Everyone > > Not everyone is on FB and I personally believe that people should not have > to be on FB to be a community of practice. > > I would not want to see a complete move away from email because things > only happen on FB. > > I think email is still a very appropriate way to communicate and far less > compromising for some than FB might be. > > > > Kind Regards > > Dr Cathryn Lloyd | Director > > > > > > > > > > > email: [log in to unmask] > phone: +61 406 007 753 > skype: maverickminds > facebook: www.facebook.com/MaverickMinds1 > > PO Box 15083, City East, Brisbane, Qld 4002 > > www.maverickminds.biz > > Next creative workshops > Brisbane: Saturday 14 June and Saturday 6th September 2014 > Cairns: Saturday 16th and Sunday 17th August 2014 > > > > > IMPORTANT: The information transmitted is for the use of the intended > recipient only and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged > material. Any review, re-transmission, disclosure, dissemination or other > use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by > persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If > you have received this e-mail in error please notify Maverick Minds via > telephone +61 406 007 753 or Email: [log in to unmask] and > delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. > > > > On 5 May 2014, at 11:07 am, Pedro D. Perez <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Dear Jürgen, Chris, and all... > So that's why there are so few emails!!!!! > Everybody (except me?) is on Facebook! > Pedro > ps. Monika, going through "Occupy Management"... Wow! > From: Aesthetics, Creativity, and Organisations Research Network > <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Jürgen Bergmann > <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 6:37 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: AACORN members at 17 March 2014 --- ACCESS TO FACEBOOK AACORN > LIST! > > Hi Chris, dear AACORNERS, > concerning our facebook-site: https://www.facebook.com/groups/aacorn/ > Yes, Roman is one of the administrators with Konstantin Adamopolous and > me. > When I had the "go" from the network to create the AACRON group on > facebook, > I asked who will be administrator with me: Roman and Konstantin agreed. > > Actually we are 72 members. > The AACORN facebook-group is very interesting in my point of view > because I can > perceive the AACORNERS who are members of the group in a larger context, > also out of the professional box. > > The question of the group setting depends on what we want. > 1. If the group setting is open, everybody can see who is member of the > group and what the members post. > 2. If the group setting is closed, everybody can see who is member of the > group but only members can see the posts. > 3. If the group setting is secret, only members can see who is member and > the posts. (This excludes also students interested in our topic!) > > Now there is that problem of administration, > because in setting 1. and 2. everybody can also ask to become member of > the group. > But if someone want to become member, an administrators must confirm the > membership. > That means, that an administrator must verify that the person who asked to > join the facebook-group > is also member of AACORN. > We the administrators - do that be verifying if the name of the person > is on the list which Hilde sends around every three month. > This is very boring !!! Because on several days there are up to 10 persons > asking to become member of the group. > (And you can be sure, these people are not at all in the profile of our > group, the most of them want only advertise.) > > If the majority of the AACORNERS who are actually member of the > facebook-group want that the group-setting is "open" > we will change the proceeding so that the administrators are not obliged > to do the boring job. > For example: Every AACORN-member who will become member of the group > writes directly to one of the three administrators. > (This will be also the case for the "closed" setting.) > If not, the setting will be "secret". > > Please give your vote, by answering: 1, 2 or 3. > (Until the end of the week.) > > Best Jürgen > > > > > > > > Von: Chris Poulson <[log in to unmask]> > Antworten an: Chris Poulson <[log in to unmask]> > Datum: Sonntag, 4. Mai 2014 03:07 > An: AACORN <[log in to unmask]> > Betreff: Re: AACORN members at 17 March 2014 --- ACCESS TO FACEBOOK AACORN > LIST! > > Hello fellow AACORNS > > Who is Roman Batko and how is it that he is changing access to the list? > Facebook version that is! > > Chris Poulson > (A very old ACORN) > > On Mar 17, 2014, at 4:35 AM, Hilde Bollen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Dear AACORNers >> >> Please find below the email list of AACORN members to date. >> >> Spring greetings from Copenhagen! >> >> Hilde >> _______________________________________________________ >> Hilde Bollen //Programme Coordinator LAICS Master >> Aarhus University (Emdrup Campus - Copenhagen) >> T. +45 871 51817, E. 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