Thank you Jane, and everyone for comments and opinions, very useful. Diane, who knows what the Reg was thinking, but the problem was that the lady didn't naturally expel the products for a long time, but you are right its a very long time, and not necessary. My lady thought so too.
THANKS ALL
Jane


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HI

In response to this question see these two selected screenshots from the Government website on advice on the fit note.  Guidance for employers here
On the same site but for Occupational Health click here
 
 
 
 

There are other questions in the guidance so have a look round.  Hope it helps


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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 14:45:29 +0100
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Hi Terri 

This tends to be a bit of an urban myth combined with a a bit of truth and a bit of HR etc not clarifying properly with insurance. Wendy wrote a really clear explanation in a previous thread which basically explains that the insurance wording usually says that appropriate risk assessment should be undertaken .. this can be via OH assessment or conversation with management for simple issues etc.


Carr


On 31 March 2014 14:42, Teresa Goodyear <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi,
I don’t know whether this is a general rule or not or whether it is just the last 2 companies I have worked for company but do they need to consider insurance?
 
My Company will not allow anyone with a ‘not fit’ statement to work because of the employers insurance- if they have an accident at work when  they shouldn’t be at work as they are not fit then I would hate to think of the amount of paperwork it would generate. Obviously if she is working at home it is not on company premises.
 
In circumstances where I have thought that an employee would be better off doing a little something at site, and the manager agrees we have requested the employee go back to the GP and get the statement altered to ‘may be fit’, we give them our proposal and then the GP can make the choice on whether they are suitable for his patient.
 
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Terri
 
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gosh
 
From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of JANE AVIS
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Thank you Dawn, agree with you. This lovely lady has 6 young children, she only returned from her mat leave in October! I have pointed her in the direction of the EAP, and she says she'll be seeking counselling, which is good. Thank you!|Jane
 

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Jane,
 
I agree with Carr and would add that this may also be an emotional period and having work may act as a distraction and give a sense of normality.
 
Perhaps check she is aware of emotional support if you have an EAP or counselling or sign post her as good practice if you feel this may help.
 
Everyone manages things differently and some people just want to get on with normal life while others need time out to reflect and take stock.
 
As long as there is no real risk to her being at work and she has been given advice that’s the best you can do and leave you door open. Sometimes the  enormity of these things can take a few months to hit home and she may want more support later.
 
D
 
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Hello all
I have a client who is insisting on working against the advice from her Registrar at the local hospital. She has been deemed 'unfit for work' from 2.2.14 to 14.4.14, but has taken just one day absent up until now, opting to work from home and in the office, depending on her fatigue, bleeding etc. She suffered a missed abortion and chose to allow nature to take its course, which it has. We work in an office, non manual role, but her role is quite stressful and she perceives that her predominantly male colleagues and manager will somehow hold this against her, thus affecting her future prospects. Its becoming a little messy. Could anyone add their wisdom into the pot please? And where does everyone stand with the working against advice on the med 3? Many thanks! Jane
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