I have been watching this discussion with interest. As part of Middlesex's preparation for gaining HEA accreditation for SF and PFHEA I applied for and was awarded a PFHEA (paid for by the Institution) last year and am now working with colleagues to support them in applying for both PF and SF. I am happy to work with colleagues externally in a mentoring capacity for their applications, although we can't offer accreditation in-house as yet as we're still working towards it. Skype and email are great mentoring tools!
Regards
Barbara
Dr Barbara Workman
NTFS, PFHEA
Principal Learning Development Consultant
Institute for Work Based Learning
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I think that there are a couple of issues here.From: Jane.Roberts [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
As a Visiting Lecturer, I was hoping that University of Manchester would see me through to SF/PF but they seem very dilatory and don't appear to have understood the nature of the higher levels (there is talk of lunchtime courses...). It strikes me that I could do a trade with someone else and do a bit of visiting lecturing in return for enrolment in their institutional scheme!
The second point is that of mentoring - even for those of us who are UK based it can be daunting to be the first one in the field. My faculty has set up a buddying scheme, but we only have one successful SFHEA (and he is leaving) and I don't think that there is yet a PFHEA in the whole institution. Certainly, writing has taken me several months and several man-days and I am still not yet in a position to submit.
Once the situation stabilises I guess that we will have some clarity and perhaps a greater degree of mutual help.
Kind regards
Bland
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thanks a lot Jane- getting clearer! I think this is the beginning of an international rush - maybe- so wed better have some systems in place -
let us not underestimate the time the writing and mentoring takes - and the importance of gettingsome sound widely accepted practices in place.
Happy to discuss further- Gina
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Subject: RE: Inquiry about Senior fellowship HEAFrom: Gina Wisker [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
Hi Gina, Celia et al
I am an HEA assessor and have some involvement with the OU OpenPAD accredited scheme. My understanding (not gospel) is:
1. accredited schemes can collaborate with other institutions (presumably if this was included in the accreditation application). The OU does this with one other partner so far.
2. there is a restriction on overseas staff, whether these are employed by the accredited institution or a partner. Specific accreditation is required in respect of each overseas location.
I think in Celia's case the most straightforward route would be direct application, perhaps with mentoring.
I agree generic support for direct applications is lacking and some way of providing this would be welcome, perhaps through a combination of OER and mentoring. Happy to discuss further with interested parties! From May I will have a new role at the OU promoting professional recognition and this was already on my list of avenues to explore.
With best wishes, Jane
Jane Roberts SFHEA SFSEDA
Staff Tutor, The Open University, MCT, R03
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Subject: Re: Inquiry about Senior fellowship HEAFrom: Online forum for SEDA, the Staff & Educational Development Association [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] on behalf of Marita Grimwood [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
Interesting discussion throughout .
I think there could be a role for SEDA in supporting colleagues,
that doesn't sort out the issue of doing it through an accredited institution, raised by Celia, or doing it direct-
or whether an accredited intitution can actually enable 'outsiders' to do their schemes-
I paid the £500 as we did not have scheme when I sent mine through (I got it back , and we have an accredited scheme now at Brighton - but I needed the experience and the credibility to lead on this )
and Celia you might well be looking at PFHEA not SFHEA as you lead on learning and teaching - so its that kind of advice (mapping job roles to fellowships) which along with reading drafts we could offer from SEDA
Some of us are giving this support for colleagues and friends within institutional schemes, and externally anyway (no fee ) as they are -friends and colleagues .
Anyone got insider HEA knowledge on this?
Gina
Head of centre for Learning and Teaching
University of Brighton
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This is an interesting question. I'm currently working on my SFHEA application and, as a freelancer, I am reliant on (and very grateful for!) the kind support of a colleague who has offered to read a draft for me. However, as SEDA Fellowships Co-ordinator, I offer guidance on applications for SFSEDA from colleagues wherever they are, regardless of location or institutional affiliation. There seems to be a gap here in the HEA's provision - especially in the light of the increased cost to those who apply independently, for example from other countries. (£500 I think).
Marita
Dr. Marita Grimwood
Learning and Teaching Consultant
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I think by collaborative partners it means those with whom there is a formal collaboration, e.g. with a memorandum of co-operation. I know that Aston has been exploring this through their collaboration with the University of Da Nang. Debby is correct that there is a charge to the ‘host’ institution by the HEA for international staff accreditation (i.e.
those staff at an international HEI), although it is only about £50 I think.
It will be an interesting question to ask at HEDG today. I would be interested to hear about the response.
Anne
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>I'm not sure about that. I think most schemes have been set up to serve
>the home institution staff and this was explicitly encouraged by the HEA.
>I also have a feeling that there's an additional payment to the HEA
>needed (on top of anything you might charge) if you accredit staff from
>beyond your institution. For this reason, it might be cheaper to go
>directly to the HEA. Will be interesting to see what the HEDG
>discussion throws up on this.
>Debby
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>Schemes are open to collaborative partners, so that must expand to
>whoever is considered a suitable candidate?
>Joelle
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>On 14 Mar 2014, at 06:58, "Susan Betty Clayton"
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> wrote:><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>
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>It is an interesting question. We are discussing CPD matters at HEDG
>today - HEA giving a talk - principally about good standing issue - but
>I'll ask about this for you, Celia.
>One issue may be that because most schemes are aimed at institutional
>focus they tend to have customised 'bits' in terms of evidence
>requirements.
>So, you may find the direct HEA route more applicable to any context.
>But in theory, I don't see why external applications couldn't be taken.
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>Best,
>Sue
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>An interesting question Celia,
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>The way our scheme is approved at South Wales we can only accredit
>using the CPD route (the only route to Senior Fellow and Principal
>Fellow) people who are teaching on University courses – i.e. our own
>staff or staff at our partner FE colleges.
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>So we couldn’t help. I’m not sure whether this approach is common in
>the other CPD schemes, but we were encouraged in this direction by the
>Academy when we accredited or scheme.
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>Cheers,
>Haydn
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>As a couple of expats living and working in Canada Ellen Sims and I
>(Celia Popovic) are interested in applying for the senior fellowship
>with the HEA and wondering if any British colleagues are offering an
>accreditation route through their schemes that would be open to
>externals. We are expecting to pay of course but suspect it may make
>more sense to apply via an accredited institution rather than direct
>through the HEA.
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>Any advice or offers received with interest
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