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Cheers, Pat. Bill On 06/03/2014, at 9:14 PM, Patrick McManus wrote: > To bogan!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf Of Bill Wootton > Sent: 06 March 2014 06:17 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: One knacker > > Thanks, Doug. The term 'bogan' may get new legs with it being applied to > paroled Schapelle Corby in Indonesia and her interfering family. > > Bill > > On 06/03/2014, at 3:27 AM, Douglas Barbour wrote: > >> Well, I would have thought something along those lines, Bill, but if I've > heard it before I cant remember (from my times in Oz). >> >> You do have tales to tell... >> >> Doug >> On Mar 5, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Patrick McManus > <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> Aha thanks so it's a typical oz-zealander!:-) >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >>> On Behalf Of Bill Wootton >>> Sent: 05 March 2014 11:31 >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: One knacker >>> >>> Pat, from our friends at Wiki pee: >>> >>> The term bogan (/'bo?g?n/)[1] is Australian and New Zealand slang, >>> usually pejorative or self-deprecating, for an individual who is >>> recognised to be from an unsophisticated background or someone whose >>> speech, clothing, attitude and behaviour exemplify a lack of manners >>> and education.[2] >>> >>> Hadn't thought about the 'bog' element. Heaney no one's idea of a bogan. > What about a 'to bog (g) an'? >>> >>> Bill >>> >>>> On 5 Mar 2014, at 8:58 pm, Patrick McManus > <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>> A bogan sounds like someone out of an Irish bog (bit like myself in >>>> fact0 >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics >>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bill Wootton >>>> Sent: 05 March 2014 06:20 >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Subject: Re: One knacker >>>> >>>> Two tinies duly amended, thanks, Max. No idea what happened to Sean. >>>> The footy coach actually instructed him to 'take out' an opposing >>>> ruckman from Lalor who was making the difference in the game. Sean >>>> did but never looked the coach in the eye again. 'Bogan' probably >>>> does not apply out of Aus but hey, let's see what Patrick and Doug >>>> make of the term. A 'sleeve' is a single arm's worth of tattoos. I'd > send a pic but this site won't handle it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Bill >>>> >>>>> On 05/03/2014, at 12:04 PM, Max Richards wrote: >>>>> >>>>> quite a full character sketch, Bill, and from how many years back? >>>>> >>>>> [tiny slips: >>>>> de rigueur >>>>> and shift hyphen up against sergeant] >>>>> >>>>> of course this reader is curious - >>>>> what became of Sean? >>>>> and you'd tell us if you knew. >>>>> Splendid set of false teeth, I trust. >>>>> >>>>> [does the word bogan work outside Australia, I wonder?] >>>>> >>>>> not sure I can visualise single sleeves. >>>>> >>>>> I'm still a bit shocked at the coach's yell. >>>>> >>>>> Max >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 05/03/2014, at 8:06 AM, Bill Wootton wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> One knacker >>>>>> >>>>>> Illiterate Sean, with his goofy >>>>>> grin, both arms scraggily >>>>>> tattooed above lanky wrists >>>>>> (before single sleeves >>>>>> became bogan de rigeur), >>>>>> you wanted on your side. >>>>>> Sean, that loosest >>>>>> of Watsonia cannons. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cranky and snap-violent, >>>>>> punctual only by accident, >>>>>> lacking customary restraints, >>>>>> tight grey-panted Sean, >>>>>> to those in the know, >>>>>> was a testicle light >>>>>> but a ballsier leader >>>>>> you'd struggle to find. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bursting through the centre >>>>>> with the damp footy >>>>>> one Greensborough winter, >>>>>> kicking the sealer, >>>>>> he inspired the coach >>>>>> to yell, Go One-Knacker. >>>>>> Sean shook his head >>>>>> afterwards. Don't do that. >>>>>> >>>>>> A product of 9D, >>>>>> legendarily unteachable, >>>>>> reaching year 11 >>>>>> on tech school >>>>>> automatic promotion, >>>>>> Sean toothlessly offered >>>>>> to assist three of us >>>>>> teachers last period Friday >>>>>> >>>>>> when fifteen-year olds >>>>>> get a whiff of weekend. >>>>>> We stood back >>>>>> while Sean sergeant >>>>>> -majored kids to seats, >>>>>> cocked an eye at us >>>>>> and rasped: Don't forget >>>>>> to all do your homework. >>>>>> >>>>>> bw >>>> >>> >> >> Douglas Barbour >> [log in to unmask] >> >> http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/ >> http://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/ >> >> Latest books: >> Continuations & Continuations 2 (with Sheila E Murphy) >> http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=962 >> Recording Dates >> (Rubicon Press) >> >> Swept snow, Li Po, >> by dawn's 40-watt moon >> to the road that hies to office >> away from home. >> >> Lorine Niedecker >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >