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Dear Klaus, There are obvious cultural badges involved with the idea that some people attempt to deal with wicked and un-tame problems while others deal with tame ones. The people who applied the doppler effect to the satellite information relating to the lost plane were obviously dealing with tame things. No tigers jumped out of the data and bit off their noses. Or, a little less colourfully, no wedding guest got waylaid by an Ancient Mariner which led to a complete muck up to his plans. My concern here is the potential over-valuation of one kind of activity because it has moments of difficulty that one can complain about and ask for more time and more money. That is, I am concerned about the designer who overstates the wicked nature of their activities because lion tamers get more money than scientists when they wear funny clothes and make wild animals growl. This over-valuation has its parallels in design with the over-valuation of creativity, individuality, originality and just plain style. Cheers Badge-less keith On 26/03/2014 5:52 pm, "Klaus Krippendorff" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >I just attended a lecture by a computational linguist about the >difficulties of translation -- not to mention of translating verbal >expressions into mathematical terms. >design issues that could be formulated in mathematical terms (and be >solved whether they are Finnish problems or Australian ones) tend to be >problems void of human participation and relatively trivial or tame as >rittel used to say > >klaus ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design -----------------------------------------------------------------