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Hi Sarah, & List, Of course I've been messing up my email replies to the list by using my Artists Meeting email address by mistake. I blame Apple email for this. It's not my fault, the computer did it! Also I think the list administrator for the NMC list should turn off the reply to individual preference in the email program. What happens is that if you hit reply instead of rely to all you wind up sending a private message instead of a group response. You see what happens when humans are involved with computers systems. Things always get messed up! On Mar 25, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Sarah Thompson wrote: > Hi GH > > >> You have to harm yourself in order to feel anything. > > This is not true. The individual has a lot of mixed up > feelings about the body > family > body politic (imaginary) > which they can’t find a way to express in the symbolic > so it coms back in the real and they cut their arm or whatever > so they are actually in a lot of distress feelings wise > >> I like to use digital tools to reveal and enhance our humanity. >> However it does cut down on much of my social and physical >> activities. > > > well, someone has to do it! > > it seems to me like you want to find symbolic ways to express the > feelings you have > in terms of coding or whatever btw I love Artists Meeting as I > have seen about it > before on the net > > as to picnolepsy – you know that moment when you save over a > document because – and you perhaps think,why did I do that? – you > temporarily > forgot that the machine wasn’t you? You know? > > art is so important to mental health because it does the work of > symbolic expression for others... Beuys wasn’t wrong when he said > ‘everyone’s an artist’ in the sense that it’s so important to express > in the symbolic so that we don’t harm ourselves > > X > > From: Artists Meeting > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 2:51 AM > To: Sarah Thompson > Cc: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [NEW-MEDIA-CURATING] March Discussion Begins: The > Performativity of Code > > > On Mar 22, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Sarah Thompson <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > if young > people are self-harming and getting a thrill out of > self-harming with others then surely the symbolic > is failing them in some way in terms of not addressing > their concerns in terms of 'live coding' > > Hi Sarah & List, > > OK. You can say that any technology causes a type of numbing > disassociation within the person. Maybe what you’re talking about > with young people > is the disassociation that comes with social media. You have to > harm yourself in order to feel anything. And yes, a bunch of > people sitting around in a circle > quietly writing code is different from talking to one another of > singing or dancing etc.. So maybe we are harming ourselves by > engaging in these types of live coding endeavors. > I like to use digital tools to reveal and enhance our humanity. > However it does cut down on much of my social and physical activities. > Unfortunately I think that humanity is on a path towards becoming > hybrid bio-machines.