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My aquarium colleague, Pete Liptrot, has suggested Gilt-head bream ‘Sparus aurata might be another possibility, there appears to be a lot of variability in tooth pattern and size (including large molariform as seen here) in this wide-ranging species, it’s indigenous to the SW UK and reaches a known size that would fit with the specimen shown’. Don Don Stenhouse Collections Access Officer (Natural Science) Bolton Library and Museum Services Le Mans Crescent BOLTON BL1 1SE Tel: 01204 338765 email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Please note I only work part time so my reply may be delayed. From: The Natural Science Collections Association discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hannah Russ Sent: 28 February 2014 15:54 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Fish jaw ID for Friday Hi Holly, It looks pretty good (though bigger than any specimen I have ever seen!) for the seabream Rhabdosargus sp. In Qatar I find these (small ones), and in this region they are Rhabdosargus sarba or R. haffara. I don't know how many of the Rhabdosargus genus have this diagnostic 'big molar' but these two certainly do. I don't know of another genus in the Sparidae family that display this tooth pattern. Please see attached dentary photo for comparison. In case the scale is no longer correct, the actual size is about 2.5cm. Without an extensive reference collection for the Rhabdosargus genus (and even then it might be tricky!) I wouldn't ID lower than genus level. Happy Friday everyone! All the best, Hannah On Friday, 28 February 2014, 15:27, "Morgenroth, Holly" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Hi folks, Attached are 2 pics of what I think is a fish jaw. The closest match I have found is bream but it still doesn’t look quite right. Any one any better ideas? No information with it I am afraid as it was found with a skeleton that it definitely doesn’t belong to. [cid:image001.jpg@01CF36D0.5D9AFE90][cid:image002.jpg@01CF36D0.5D9AFE90] Thanks all H Holly Morgenroth | Curator of Natural History Royal Albert Memorial Museum | Bradninch Offices | Bradninch Place | Gandy Street | Exeter | EX4 3LS (t) 01392 265358 (f) 01392 421252 (e) [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> (w) http://www.exeter.gov.uk/ramm RAMM - Museum of the Year 2012<http://artfundprize.org.uk/2012/winner.php> Find out What's on: http://www.rammuseum.org.uk/Whats-on/ Buy our art online: http://prints.rammuseum.org.uk/ Find us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/RAMMuseum Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/RAMMuseum ________________________________ Disclaimer: http://www.exeter.gov.uk/disclaimer ________________________________ This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and may also be legally privileged. They are intended solely for the intended addressee. If you are not the addressee please e-mail it back to the sender and then immediately, permanently delete it. Do not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on it. This e-mail may be monitored by Bolton Council in accordance with current regulations. This footnote also confirms that this e-mail message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses currently known to Bolton Council. However, the recipient is responsible for virus-checking before opening this message and any attachment. Unless expressly stated to the contrary, any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Bolton Council. http://www.bolton.gov.uk