Sadly Nicky, this is already the case. We are behind the times in how we deal with the sharing of data. One of the issues I have had with care.data is the assurance that our information is anonymised. It may well be at the point of leaving the Health and Social Care Information Centre. However, big data is routinely used in some large corporations that find it useful and pharmas are going to be no different - it's a growth areas. Big data is such that you only need very basic information for algorithms to match and identify individuals with great accuracy. The issue is already here which means that we have to stop thinking of protecting privacy per se- those days are largely gone. The challenge is to manage the data that is out there in ways that ensure that no harm is done to individuals who may be identified - and yes, it's still privacy, but the emphasis has moved. And that's a big challenge. Personally I am all for anonymised information being shared for a better healthcare society. What I am against is the way it is being implemented and managed with a "sleep walking" attitude as was stated by our previous Information Commissioner, Richard Thomas (albeit on a slightly different issue). It's all so complicated, but from my perspective laden with opportunity and worthwhile endeavour. It's fun. ;) Simon Howarth MSc. MBCS CITP Director and Senior Consultant The Information Edge Mob. 07836 365588 Webtech Systems Limited t/a The Information Edge. Registered in England No. 3428632 www.informationedge.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Huntley Nicky (RTR) South Tees NHS Trust Sent: 31 March 2014 19:05 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] Secure Messaging for patients Hi all, real interesting debate and I'm a big believer in giving choice as per others have already stated. My view in this has always been privacy supported by DPA, as the fact is before long it seems that everyone's data is going to be out there somewhere! Big data, Open Data, HSCIC data, Transparency et al........the fact is we will all be sat waiting for that final connector to a data....and what a judgement day that will be! now is the time to turn this on its head.... the protection of privacy supported by the protection of the data......because we know it makes sense! Well that's my thought anyway :) Nicky Sent from my iPhone > On 31 Mar 2014, at 16:10, "Paul Ticher" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Warning: This message contains unverified links which may not be safe. You should only click links if you are sure they are from a trusted source. > Generally I agree that people should be able to use the methods that suit them, but they must be made aware of the risks. With e-mail I think the biggest risk (because it's a neat combination of technical and human weakness) is auto-complete when you start typing an email address. The scope for sending sensitive information to the wrong person is enormous. On the other hand, if you have someone's email address as a field in their database record and click a button labelled 'Send an email to this person' the risk is significantly diminished. The system can also, of course, keep a copy of the communication as part of the record: win/win. > > That suggests that it is better for the organisation to think ahead and set up a system that can capture and hold email addresses, then make it mandatory to email from within the system - rather than make ad hoc decisions that result in individual staff taking the riskiest option for want of anything better. Head in the sand is not the answer. > > Best wishes, > > Paul > > > Paul Ticher > 0116 273 8191 > www.paulticher.com > 22 Stoughton Drive North, Leicester LE5 5UB > <snip> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving messages please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] Full help Desk - please email [log in to unmask] describing your needs To receive these emails in HTML format send the command: SET data-protection HTML to [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^