Hi all,

Just a quick response to the email below. This sounds like the old thinking for carb loading. Latest research seems to suggest training low isn't necessary prior to increasing your carb intake in the day or so prior to an endurance event (i.e longer than 90mins - the time after which glycogen stores are general used up).

For me, sports drinks (you can make your own, I am in no way advocating Lucozade) do have a place. They can be used during sporting events (lasting over an hour - so not for a 5k!) to provide energy and salts, and to hydrate. The level of sugar in these products (no more than 6g/100ml) has been shown to upregulate the absorption of water (as there is active absorption, with the glucose, as well as passive).

And the pee chart is standard in sports science, not specific to lucozade.

Regards

Sarah


Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:10:23 +0000
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I once went to a lecture by a sports scientist on this topic.

From what I remember the nub of the talk was that yes, sports drinks do get lots of glucose to your cells very quickly. This means that your cells learn to perform when awash with glucose. It's much better to train them to use glucose effectively by training with a little bit of it. Then when you compete you can flood them with glucose and they will be able to use it effectively for better advantage. I can't see Lucozade publishing that research.

The pee chart always makes me laugh. My pee is particularly light coloured after several pints of lager. Are Lucozade suggesting that this is a good way to prepare for sports?

Liz Hind


On 11 February 2014 11:50, Ian Turner <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dear All
 
I recently purchased a bottle of Lucozade Guava which contains two images on the sleeve see attached image (not sure if attachments work on this mailing list!)  One of the images is meant to be Glucose the sugar in the drink that quickly enters the athletes blood stream.
 
However on a closer look I realised there had been a mistake, and that the molecule is incorrectly drawn,  the orientation of the Hydrogen (H) and Hydroxyl (OH) is the wrong way round on 'carbon number three'
 
This may appear a trivial point, but Lucozade clearly try and sell there product on it's scientific merits as evidenced by the products website (http://www.lucozadesport.com/lucozade-sport-vs-water/).  What is interesting is that they focus heavily on the benefits of Lucozade Vs Water and allow users to download a PDF (http://www.lucozadesport.com/lucozade-sport-vs-water/) documents that uses words such as 'Independent Group of Researchers, Double Blind Trials, Independent Peer Reviewed Journals' but when you find the articles they quote all off them appear to be based on research funded by GalxoSmithKline (disclosed in the paper) whom up until 2013 manufactured Lucozade!  I am not suggesting unethical practice in the papers, but one does wonder if other articles have contradictory findings?
 
I did write to Lucozade and they have responded as below
 
Re: Case Number:759:XXXX
 
Dear Dr Turner,
 
Thank you for your email with regards to our Lucozade products.  I apologise for the delay in responding.
 
We are always pleased to receive feedback from our consumers, especially when they send us their comments about our products, ingredients or their packaging.
 
Please rest assured that your comments have been well noted and have been passed onto our Drinks Marketing Department for their information. 
 
Lastly, thank you for bringing this matter to our attention and I agree that the representation we have used does not follow the standard  illustration. However we can reassure you that the sugars used in the product are from glucose syrup.
 
I hope this information is of help to you.
 
Kind regards,
 
Awa
 
Can send the images to those interested if the attachements do not work!
 
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